All things Major League Baseball and Goldeyes.

 

Edited October 24, 20196 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

3 hours ago, JCon said:

It's been approved, already. Too bad for Oakland. Manfred should have pushed back on the entitled nepo baby. 

 

Well I guess they couldn't get the government to kick in money on a new ball park and got tired of playing in that rat infested dump, Vegas is going to help build and nice park on the strip to go with T Mobile and Allegiant. I would also say that a basketball team is probably around the corner but can a destination city support all 4 leagues.

3 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Well I guess they couldn't get the government to kick in money on a new ball park and got tired of playing in that rat infested dump, Vegas is going to help build and nice park on the strip to go with T Mobile and Allegiant. I would also say that a basketball team is probably around the corner but can a destination city support all 4 leagues.

The ****bag owner took so much out of that team and depleted it. 

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

The ****bag owner took so much out of that team and depleted it. 

There's good cheap, TB and really bad cheap, A's not funny but Oakland lost football and baseball teams to Vegas.

15 minutes ago, bustamente said:

There's good cheap, TB and really bad cheap, A's not funny but Oakland lost football and baseball teams to Vegas.

Someone will always give billionaires welfare. 

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

Someone will always give billionaires welfare. 

Lets see what happens in Jacksonville where their football team is trying for public money and the public has said no.

Just now, bustamente said:

Lets see what happens in Jacksonville where their football team is trying for public money and the public has said no.

Khan has wanted to move the team to London since he bought them. I'm not sure the NFL would allow it. They'll get their 4-team NFL expansion and make Khan move the team elsewhere. 

1 minute ago, JCon said:

Khan has wanted to move the team to London since he bought them. I'm not sure the NFL would allow it. They'll get their 4-team NFL expansion and make Khan move the team elsewhere. 

I can't even imagine what the expansion fee would be but it would probably be in the billions

14 minutes ago, bustamente said:

I can't even imagine what the expansion fee would be but it would probably be in the billions

Historic expansion fees:

Team(s)	Franchise Fee	First Season
Houston Texans	$700 million	2002
Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars	$140 million	1995
Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$16 million	1976
Cincinnati Bengals (AFL)	$7.5-$8 million	1968
New Orleans Saints	$8.5 million	1967
Atlanta Falcons	$8.5 million	1966
Miami Dolphins (AFL)	$7.5 million	1966
Minnesota Vikings	$1 million	1961
Dallas Cowboys	$1 million	1960
Original members of the AFL	$25,000	1960
Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Pirates*	$2,500	1933
New York Giants	$500	1925
Original members of the NFL**	$100^	1920
Based purely on inflation from 2002 to now, that would be $1.2B, however the Texans are now valued at $4.7B.   So would an ask be around $5B?

2 minutes ago, Rich said:

Historic expansion fees:

Team(s)	Franchise Fee	First Season
Houston Texans	$700 million	2002
Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars	$140 million	1995
Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$16 million	1976
Cincinnati Bengals (AFL)	$7.5-$8 million	1968
New Orleans Saints	$8.5 million	1967
Atlanta Falcons	$8.5 million	1966
Miami Dolphins (AFL)	$7.5 million	1966
Minnesota Vikings	$1 million	1961
Dallas Cowboys	$1 million	1960
Original members of the AFL	$25,000	1960
Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Pirates*	$2,500	1933
New York Giants	$500	1925
Original members of the NFL**	$100^	1920
* Changed nickname to Steelers in 1940.
** NFL was known as the American Professional Football Association for its first two seasons.
^ According to accounts, this membership fee was never paid by the teams.   Based purely on inflation from 2002 to now, that would be $1.2B, however the Texans are now valued at $4.7B.   So would an ask be around $5B?

Raiders paid ~$350M to move to Vegas. 

The Rams and Chargers were charged $650M each to move to LA. 

 

And, keep in mind the NFL does not allow corporate ownership. You need to have an owner (team of owners) with deep pockets and access to crazy financing. 

Edited November 16, 20232 yr by JCon

4 hours ago, bustamente said:

There's good cheap, TB and really bad cheap, A's not funny but Oakland lost football and baseball teams to Vegas.

Not surprised,  Oakland is a dump and Vegas is still on the rise.    Plus Vegas with a never ending amount of tourists dollars it makes it very desirable to have a team in Vegas.  

Some crazy numbers circling around Ohtani, he is a great one of a kind player but it really is buyer beware with him for the upcoming season.

Soto is a Yankee. Cashman finally fixes the grievous error of not signing Harper. Now, they better get him extended. 

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

Soto is a Yankee. Cashman finally fixes the grievous error of not signing Harper. Now, they better get him extended. 

The only guy I will miss is King, now to get a couple of starters

 

20 hours ago, bustamente said:

Some crazy numbers circling around Ohtani, he is a great one of a kind player but it really is buyer beware with him for the upcoming season.

It is a crazy number, but a team like the Blue Jays and their own Rogers will easily make that money back in all the additional revenue they can generate.

On 2023-11-16 at 2:31 PM, Rich said:

Historic expansion fees:

Team(s)	Franchise Fee	First Season
Houston Texans	$700 million	2002
Carolina Panthers and Jacksonville Jaguars	$140 million	1995
Seattle Seahawks and Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$16 million	1976
Cincinnati Bengals (AFL)	$7.5-$8 million	1968
New Orleans Saints	$8.5 million	1967
Atlanta Falcons	$8.5 million	1966
Miami Dolphins (AFL)	$7.5 million	1966
Minnesota Vikings	$1 million	1961
Dallas Cowboys	$1 million	1960
Original members of the AFL	$25,000	1960
Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Pirates*	$2,500	1933
New York Giants	$500	1925
Original members of the NFL**	$100^	1920
Based purely on inflation from 2002 to now, that would be $1.2B, however the Texans are now valued at $4.7B.   So would an ask be around $5B?

Good luck Toronto paying $5B for a franchise fee. The NFL doesn't allow companies or corporations to own a team so MLSE would be out. The team would need a very wealthy owner. That's just for expansion fees. then another $2-3B for a tadium. Then another half billion for offices & practice facilities. Oh, did I mention that all this is in American funds??? So, $8.5 billion US  works out to $11.94 B Canadian at today's rates. 

14 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Good luck Toronto paying $5B for a franchise fee. The NFL doesn't allow companies or corporations to own a team so MLSE would be out. The team would need a very wealthy owner. That's just for expansion fees. then another $2-3B for a tadium. Then another half billion for offices & practice facilities. Oh, did I mention that all this is in American funds??? So, $8.5 billion US  works out to $11.94 B Canadian at today's rates. 

Cheaper to relocate the Bills.

27 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Cheaper to relocate the Bills.

Buffalo is building a new stadium so that's not happening 

NFL gave up on Toronto a long time ago, games in Europe should have told you that. Expansion fees for a 4 teams will be mind blowing.

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Cheaper to relocate the Bills.

As they're building a $2B stadium for the Bills, that won't happen. 

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/stadium-news

34 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/stadium-news

No retractable roof? I remember when 2 billion got you one.

1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

No retractable roof? I remember when 2 billion got you one.

The Bills stadium page said they thought of everything... 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

The Bills stadium page said they thought of everything... 

They did. They were thinking specifically of this fan - why ruin his fun with a roof?

They don't need a retractable dome in Buffalo the liquor keeps them from feeling anything.

It's a great day to be a baseball fan in Canada is Shohei signs with the Blue Jays. I hate the Blue Jays but this would do so much to promote baseball in Canada, it would be phenomenal. The generational impact would be massive. 

I still think the Dodgers have the advantage, but I could see how Toronto would be intriguing for Ohtani. 

 

Kind of the way Vince Carter sparked a generation of basketball players north of the border.