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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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This presser is going to be a big part of the inevitable "Fall of Donald" Documentary.  And keep in mind, these were pre-screened questions and they pushed back the presser so Trump could prepare answers. 

This explains his dodge of "not knowing about it":

This is all building to a "What did the President know and when did he know it" moment, isnt it?

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5 hours ago, Atomic said:

Ahhh Donald is so refreshing.  My favourite politician of all time.

LOL - yeah exactly.  I don't know what's more entertaining,  Donald fencing with the press or watching peoples' heads explode every day in reaction.  I did laugh at that BBC reporter saying that the BBC is fair and impartial.  Oh boy, that will be the day.

 I don't know what's more entertaining,  Donald Trump melting down and trying to convince people one thing and then saying the exact opposite in the next sentence or watching peoples' Jaw drop every day in realisation that this is the POTUS.  I did laugh at that bit about Trumps ratings would get better if he sunk the Russian ship. Oh boy, that will be the day.

Saw this and thought of Trump:

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10 hours ago, johnzo said:

Yeah, that bit about attacking a Russian ship, that wasn't real funny to me, but I guess I'm an easily triggered snowflake. Glad to know you guys are getting yuks out of it.

I like to think that he is being sarcastic and pointing out how odd it is how much the left hate Russia.  I never quite know with Trump but I'm pretty sure he won't be attacking any Russian ships any time soon.

58 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I like to think that he is being sarcastic and pointing out how odd it is how much the left hate Russia.  I never quite know with Trump but I'm pretty sure he won't be attacking any Russian ships any time soon.

"The left"? As if the right doesn't hate them. When it comes to Russia no one likes them other than Trump.

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12 minutes ago, Jacquie said:

"The left"? As if the right doesn't hate them. When it comes to Russia no one likes them other than Trump.

Speak for yourself, you sure don't speak for me

If the "right" doesnt view Russia as an enemy and with great caution they should be renamed the "wrong".

The remark was outrageous because it shows a complete lack of diplomacy and intelligence on behalf of Trump.  Its the kind of stupid off-hand remark that can cause international incidents.  If Putin gave a speech in Moscow and off-hand joked about blowing up a US ship, it would not play very well here.  It would be seen as a provocation and contribute to the idea that Putin isnt thoughtful or, worse, is an impulsive madman.

Some of Trump's method to speaking is refreshing in that he doesnt seem to give much thought to the words that come out of his mouth so you never really have to guess at what he's thinking, what he really means or what the mindset of government is.  I might admire those qualities in, oh I dont know, maybe my boss...maybe my lawyer.  Maybe my mechanic.  But leader of the free world?  I think erring on the side of careful is better then careless.

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3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

If the "right" doesnt view Russia as an enemy and with great caution they should be renamed the "wrong".

So you don't think fostering a better relationship with Russia would be beneficial?

52 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

If the "right" doesnt view Russia as an enemy and with great caution they should be renamed the "wrong".

The remark was outrageous because it shows a complete lack of diplomacy and intelligence on behalf of Trump.  Its the kind of stupid off-hand remark that can cause international incidents.  If Putin gave a speech in Moscow and off-hand joked about blowing up a US ship, it would not play very well here.  It would be seen as a provocation and contribute to the idea that Putin isnt thoughtful or, worse, is an impulsive madman.

Some of Trump's method to speaking is refreshing in that he doesnt seem to give much thought to the words that come out of his mouth so you never really have to guess at what he's thinking, what he really means or what the mindset of government is.  I might admire those qualities in, oh I dont know, maybe my boss...maybe my lawyer.  Maybe my mechanic.  But leader of the free world?  I think erring on the side of careful is better then careless.

I don't find that refreshing at all. However, we're now told that Trump is a genius by a recent fox contributor (name eludes me) so all is good.

3 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Let's ask Ukraine.

That situation isn't as simple as you'd like to believe.  There are pro-Russian separatist factions within Ukraine.  But I guess you know better than they do.  How much time have you spent there?  I'm eager to hear about your experiences.

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

So you don't think fostering a better relationship with Russia would be beneficial?

I guess so.  When a nation wants to screw you though, how better can it be?  You can either make them happy and bend over or you can refuse to bed over and not make them happy.  Trust but verify I guess.  Putin isnt Gorby.  He's a dictator from the KGB.  He doesnt want to be buddies with the US.  And I dont think he would respond to niceties.  He hasnt so far.  He has done whatever he wanted wherever he wanted. 

I dont want war with Russia.  But Russia isnt our friend. 

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