Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

Ginni Thomas's attempts to influence overturning of election even wider than previously known
   
Ginni Thomas‘ efforts to influence the overturning of the 2020 presidential election are even wider than previously known. Thomas, a far-right activist and lobby who happens to also be the spouse of the most right-wing U.S. Supreme Court justice, not only engaged in a months-long pressure campaign to influence then-Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to help overturn the results of the election, and pressured 29 GOP lawmakers in Arizona to overturn the election, but also pressured lawmakers in another critical battleground state, Wisconsin, to do so as well.

The Washington Post Thursday reports “new emails show that Thomas also messaged two Republican lawmakers in Wisconsin: state Sen. Kathy Bernier, then chair of the Senate elections committee, and state Rep. Gary Tauchen. Bernier and Tauchen received the email at 10:47 a.m. on Nov. 9, virtually the same time the Arizona lawmakers received a verbatim copy of the message from Thomas. The Bernier email was obtained by The Post, and the Tauchen email was obtained by the watchdog group Documented and provided to The Post.”
The Post published the text of the emails sent by Thomas.  “Please stand strong in the face of media and political pressure,” the emails read. The Post notes they were sent “just days after major media organizations called the presidency for Biden.”

“Please reflect on the awesome authority granted to you by our Constitution. And then please take action to ensure that a clean slate of Electors is chosen for our state,” they also say.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/09/ginni-thomas-attempts-influence-overturn/

Just fascists doing fascist things.  

 

2 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Christian belief perpetuated in the Middle Ages

it is straight from the Gospel of John. which is presented as, the word of Jesus, the lord.

Jesus, speaking to the Jews:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

so if you actually believe that Jesus is god, and that those are his words...

you will hate Jews, children of the devil.

lot of Jew hatred today, is based on that one paragraph.

 

Edited September 1, 20223 yr by Mark F

@JCon

eyeroll?

guess you dont know much about this.

go read some anti semitic christian forums. get back to us.

Edited September 1, 20223 yr by Mark F

Just now, Mark F said:

@JCon

eyeroll?

guess you arent familiar with this.

go read some anti semitic christian forums. get back to us.

I was clicking like and it slid over. 

 

I have zero patience for any "religious" text. It's all about fear, hatred and power. 

5 minutes ago, JCon said:

I was clicking like and it slid over. 

 

I have zero patience for any "religious" text. It's all about fear, hatred and power. 

got it.

honestly, I read that 8:44 recently for the first time. but it explains a lot. I was shocked.

 

58 minutes ago, JCon said:

Just fascists doing fascist things.  

 

Got her dead to rights but GT walks freely amongst us smirking and laughing away convincing herself and other knuckle draggers that they, not these WOKE radical leftists, sit on high moral ground while her husband sits on the highest court in the land. 

 

 

48 minutes ago, JCon said:

I was clicking like and it slid over. 

 

I have zero patience for any "religious" text. It's all about fear, hatred and power. 

You will find whatever you're looking for.

2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

You will find whatever you're looking for.

It's all written down for everyone to see. 

Just now, JCon said:

It's all written down for everyone to see. 

The good, the bad and the ugly.

2 hours ago, Mark F said:

it is straight from the Gospel of John. which is presented as, the word of Jesus, the lord.

Jesus, speaking to the Jews:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

so if you actually believe that Jesus is god, and that those are his words...

you will hate Jews, children of the devil.

lot of Jew hatred today, is based on that one paragraph.

 

When you understand that, at a minimum, a third of the current Bible is provably non-original- added well after the death of Yeshua and the apostles, then it becomes clearer that it is not to be accepted as literal word of God.

Trump Attorney's Eye-Popping Claim On Live TV Sounds Like A Confession

An attorney for former President Donald Trump seemed to admit that the highly sensitive documents seized from Mar-a-Lago when the FBI executed a search warrant last month weren’t kept in the most secure of settings.

In fact, Alina Habba said on Fox News on Wednesday that the files were kept in an office where Trump “frequently” had guests.
Habba took issue with a photo the Justice Department included in its legal brief detailing the reason for the search warrant and what was discovered. That image showed top secret documents and other classified materials, with key information covered up, arranged on the floor:Some of the documents found at Mar-a-Lago. 
“I do have firsthand knowledge, as you know. I have been down there, I’m down there frequently,” Habba told Sean Hannity. “I have never seen that. I have never, ever seen that. That is not the way his office looks. Anybody that knows President Trump’s office, he has guests frequently there, it’s just a joke.”

The documents recovered during the search included highly sensitive materials that should only be kept in a secured facility. While Trump’s team has previously claimed that anything he had at Mar-a-Lago was kept secure, Habba’s admission that these items were actually in a room where he “frequently” had guests was unlikely to help his case.

Trump’s attorneys, advisers and insiders have come up with a number of unusual defenses for this stash of sensitive documents.

Trump only hires the dumb and dumbest and then stiffs them. Seriously how he has escaped jail for all his criminal endeavors is beyond me.

50 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump only hires the dumb and dumbest and then stiffs them. Seriously how he has escaped jail for all his criminal endeavors is beyond me.

Yup. There has to be more going on behind the scenes to allow people of his ilk to continually dodge accountability. Maybe in our lifetime we will find out what.

Maybe that former cop from NYC that was sentenced to 10 years today can call President Trump and get him to pardon him right away.

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yup. There has to be more going on behind the scenes to allow people of his ilk to continually dodge accountability. Maybe in our lifetime we will find out what.

It may be as simple as bribery being cheaper than good lawyers.

26 minutes ago, Tracker said:

It may be as simple as bribery being cheaper than good lawyers.

That has been Trump’s M.O. for decades. Threaten lawsuits to negotiate better money deals for himself, or defend a lawsuit by dragging things out so long the other side goes bankrupt fighting him in court, the n negotiates a buyout settlement at pennies on the dollar with a non-disclosure agreement so he never admits liability or loss. Fortunately, when the government is involved, they have deeper pockets than him and all the resources at their disposal. His hope is all the flunkies he installed while President, including all the way up to the Supreme Court, will cover his ass now.  

They all knew but what made them bootlickers, is it power Trump doesn't have much of that, is it money again Trump doesn't have as much as he wants people to believe, one day it will all come out.

 

10 hours ago, Tracker said:

It may be as simple as bribery being cheaper than good lawyers.

The greed of money.

All the GQP MAGAts losing their minds over that speech yesterday is social media gold this morning.

11 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

That has been Trump’s M.O. for decades. Threaten lawsuits to negotiate better money deals for himself, or defend a lawsuit by dragging things out so long the other side goes bankrupt fighting him in court, the n negotiates a buyout settlement at pennies on the dollar with a non-disclosure agreement so he never admits liability or loss. Fortunately, when the government is involved, they have deeper pockets than him and all the resources at their disposal. His hope is all the flunkies he installed while President, including all the way up to the Supreme Court, will cover his ass now.  

The noose is tightening around Trump's neck, and he keeps saying stoopid, self-incriminating things. His last line of defence will likely be to find/bribe someone to take the fall but with his incredible talent for shooting himself in the foot repeatedly, even that will not work.

6 minutes ago, Tracker said:

The noose is tightening around Trump's neck, and he keeps saying stoopid, self-incriminating things. His last line of defence will likely be to find/bribe someone to take the fall but with his incredible talent for shooting himself in the foot repeatedly, even that will not work.

His last line of defense will be to call for more violence. And, the MAGAts will do so, again. 

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

The noose is tightening around Trump's neck, and he keeps saying stoopid, self-incriminating things. His last line of defence will likely be to find/bribe someone to take the fall but with his incredible talent for shooting himself in the foot repeatedly, even that will not work.

The guy I'm leery about is Barron Trump lurking in the background, the next generation of Trump buffoonery.

My guess is that kid doesn't have a chance considering the genetics.

5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

The guy I'm leery about is Barron Trump lurking in the background, the next generation of Trump buffoonery.

My guess is that kid doesn't have a chance considering the genetics.

I think genetics have nothing to do with it. That sort of attitude that Donnie has is created by a wildly dysfunctional upbringing and role-modeling, and it will likely be a lifetime struggle for Barron anyways.