Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

I think the first thing Trump did after becoming president, is get any, all dirt available to the President, , from cia, fbi, homeland sec. 

who knows, what he did. moron criminal.

Edited August 9, 20223 yr by Mark F

23 minutes ago, Mark F said:

I think the first thing Trump did after becoming president, is get any, all dirt available to the President, , from cia, fbi, homeland sec. 

who knows, what he did. moron criminal.

Fortunately, Trump for all his intended malevolence. is incredibly stoopid and paranoid to the extent where he did not trust anyone else to cover his misdeeds and instead chose to believe that he was clever and entitled enough to bluff his way out of literally anything, including sedition and treason.

35 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Sadly, the fools who are rallying to Trump's defence (apart from the fascists in government) are simply cannon fodder to Trump and his cabal, but they are too stoopid to realize it. Kinda reminds me of the line the king in the Shrek movie: "Some of you are going to die but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make". And now multi-millionaire Trump is begging for alms to fund his looming criminal charges defence. Apparently you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.

Apparently another state has decided to provide AR-15s to their schools. Can't recall which one, but I am sure that Remington is ecstatic.

It’s because he’s their money train. Most know he’s throw them under the bus in a nano second but the smell of money is intoxicating to them. Drunk with greed and status. 

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

It’s because he’s their money train. Most know he’s throw them under the bus in a nano second but the smell of money is intoxicating to them. Drunk with greed and status. 

Well, most of Trump's support comes from rural, low-income and poorly-educated areas with no end of social problems- like low life expectancy, high chemical dependency/abuse, third-world infant mortality high crime rates and low incomes. These rubes place unquestioning faith in authoritarian corporations and politicians who blame minorities and promise, but never deliver dramatic panaceas.

Pretty sure that Garland (AG), Wray (FBI Head) and whichever Judge signed off on a search warrant, to raid the home of a former President.......weren't sticking their necks out for nothing....
 

26 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Well, most of Trump's support comes from rural, low-income and poorly-educated areas with no end of social problems- like low life expectancy, high chemical dependency/abuse, third-world infant mortality high crime rates and low incomes. These rubes place unquestioning faith in authoritarian corporations and politicians who blame minorities and promise, but never deliver dramatic panaceas.

Yup I was taking about ones with influence and power.

Appeals court rules IRS must provide Trump’s tax returns to House committee
https://thehill.com/regulation/3594321-appeals-court-rules-irs-must-provide-trumps-tax-returns-to-house-committee/

 

So what exactly was Trump going to do if all those classified documents that he stole and didn't give back

Head of the FBI is a Republican appointed by Trump but yep its persecution by the Dems.

9 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Head of the FBI is a Republican appointed by Trump but yep its persecution by the Dems.

Head of the FBI who admitted that they didnt' investigate Kavanaugh because Trump told him not to. 

Merrick Garland's case against Donald Trump is probably airtight 

First, the news. The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday morning of the former president’s home in Florida. Federal agents were looking for secret government documents that Donald Trump had taken with him after leaving the White House in January 2021.  The FBI’s search warrant arose from a grand jury investigation that was opened after representatives of the National Archives last January had gone to Mar-a-Lago to retrieve 15 boxes of documents.

That visit was followed by another visit “in the spring,” according to an unnamed Times source, this time by federal agents searching Trump’s residence for classified documents. “At least one of the agents,” the Times reported, “was involved in counterintelligence.”

So as far as we know, Monday’s was the third search.  But the first to be authorized by a federal judge.

Second, the legal context. The search warrant executed on Monday morning is separate from the J6 committee’s investigation of Trump’s leadership of the sacking and looting of the US Capitol in 2021 in a bid to take over the US government. It is separate from a criminal investigation in Georgia of election meddling. It is separate from a civil investigation in New York state of property-value fraud.

Third, the legal process. Federal search warrants are authorized by federal judges. To get approval, prosecutors must show probable cause – reasonable suspicion of a crime having been committed. They have to show evidence of there being more evidence of the crime at the place to be searched. All of this process is under oath.

So the search is not a “preemptive coup,” because coups are illegal. This search was lawful. It’s not Watergate, because Watergate was a crime (burglary), as was its cover-up. This search was lawful. Federal authorities suspected reasonably that there were more documents at Mar-a-Lago. They apparently asked politely first. When that didn’t work, they presented the evidence they did have to a federal judge so that they could search the premises for more evidence of the crime.
At this point, we should pause to say that no one knows what the crime is, how many crimes there are or whether there are crimes at all. All we know is what’s been reported. Everything else is noise.

Speaking of which, fourth, the political backlash. Trump’s Republican allies say the search violates the tenets of American exceptionalism. We just don’t do that here, said US Senator Marco Rubio. “Using government power to persecute political opponents is something we have seen many times from 3rd world Marxist dictatorships.”

The president’s allies are also issuing threats. Without knowing anything more than that Trump’s gaudy residence was searched by lawful warrant, they are vowing to investigate US Attorney General Merrick Garland.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/merrick-garlands-case-donald-trump/

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Merrick Garland's case against Donald Trump is probably airtight 

First, the news. The FBI executed a search warrant on Monday morning of the former president’s home in Florida. Federal agents were looking for secret government documents that Donald Trump had taken with him after leaving the White House in January 2021.  The FBI’s search warrant arose from a grand jury investigation that was opened after representatives of the National Archives last January had gone to Mar-a-Lago to retrieve 15 boxes of documents.

That visit was followed by another visit “in the spring,” according to an unnamed Times source, this time by federal agents searching Trump’s residence for classified documents. “At least one of the agents,” the Times reported, “was involved in counterintelligence.”

So as far as we know, Monday’s was the third search.  But the first to be authorized by a federal judge.

Second, the legal context. The search warrant executed on Monday morning is separate from the J6 committee’s investigation of Trump’s leadership of the sacking and looting of the US Capitol in 2021 in a bid to take over the US government. It is separate from a criminal investigation in Georgia of election meddling. It is separate from a civil investigation in New York state of property-value fraud.

Third, the legal process. Federal search warrants are authorized by federal judges. To get approval, prosecutors must show probable cause – reasonable suspicion of a crime having been committed. They have to show evidence of there being more evidence of the crime at the place to be searched. All of this process is under oath.

So the search is not a “preemptive coup,” because coups are illegal. This search was lawful. It’s not Watergate, because Watergate was a crime (burglary), as was its cover-up. This search was lawful. Federal authorities suspected reasonably that there were more documents at Mar-a-Lago. They apparently asked politely first. When that didn’t work, they presented the evidence they did have to a federal judge so that they could search the premises for more evidence of the crime.
At this point, we should pause to say that no one knows what the crime is, how many crimes there are or whether there are crimes at all. All we know is what’s been reported. Everything else is noise.

Speaking of which, fourth, the political backlash. Trump’s Republican allies say the search violates the tenets of American exceptionalism. We just don’t do that here, said US Senator Marco Rubio. “Using government power to persecute political opponents is something we have seen many times from 3rd world Marxist dictatorships.”

The president’s allies are also issuing threats. Without knowing anything more than that Trump’s gaudy residence was searched by lawful warrant, they are vowing to investigate US Attorney General Merrick Garland.

https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/merrick-garlands-case-donald-trump/

It really is true what Trump said a while back. To paraphrase what he said, he could shoot someone on 35 avenue and get away with it. None of the above matters to the hardened cult supporters. None of it. They just froth at the mouth, yell persecution and rabidly yell wait until we get all the power you all going to pay for this.

GOP Senator says Democrats support abortions up to 52 weeks
   
Another Republican man is being humiliated publicly after they revealed that they have no idea about the biology of female humans.

For years, Republicans, men, in particular, have been ridiculed for bizarre ideas they have about biology that are not only false but laughably so. Todd Akin, who ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri, infamously said that women can't get pregnant from rape because if it is a "legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." That's false.

Over the weekend, Indiana state Rep. John Jacob (R) claimed, "The body inside of the mom's body is not her body. Let me repeat that: The body inside of the mom's body is not her body. Not her body, not her choice."

Rush Limbaugh infamously decided to shoot all women who sought an abortion. "You know how to stop abortion? Require that each one occur with a gun," he announced.

Similarly, Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) tweeted his idea in 2013, "If babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted."

Conservative blogger Erick Erickson, who now has his own radio show, told women in 2013 that they should bookmark a website where they can buy clothes hangers to perform their own abortions.

Now Sen. Tim Scot (R-SC) can now be added to the list.  Huffington Post reporter Amanda Terkel reported that Scott thinks women carry a fetus for longer than 52 weeks and that Democrats want abortions up to 52 weeks.

The comment came in a Monday fundraising email saying, "If we don’t take back the Senate, Dems will pack the courts, give DC statehood, grant abortions up to 52 weeks, and Republicans will never win again."

Dr. Meera Shah, chief medical officer of Planned Parenthood Hudson Peconic, told Terkel, "It is not logical or medically accurate to say that people can be pregnant at 52 weeks ― let alone be seeking an abortion. It is comments like this one that underscore exactly why medical decisions should not be made by politicians."

https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/gop-senator-abortion-52-weeks/

On 2022-08-07 at 9:51 PM, the watcher said:

The greatest democracy in the world !  ( so they proclaim )

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aqG0XqZ_460svav1.mp4

We now come to the portion of "idiot theatre" where people close the orange goblin are putting it out there that stuff was planted at Mar A Crapo 

There is growing speculation that an insider is feeding information to the American DOJ. Melania? One of his sons, daughter, or son in law desperate to avoid jail?

20 minutes ago, Tracker said:

There is growing speculation that an insider is feeding information to the American DOJ. Melania? One of his sons, daughter, or son in law desperate to avoid jail?

I think this is very plausible but I don't think it's a family member, could be an aide that is with him at Mar A Lago who would have knowledge of what Trump has and where he had it. Could be Mark Meadows as even Trumps lawyers have told him to stop corresponding with him

If the Republicans really want to know what Trump had, and what the FBI hauled out of his palace they should just ask him, he has the receipt.

16 hours ago, JCon said:

Head of the FBI who admitted that they didnt' investigate Kavanaugh because Trump told him not to. 

 

lot of Trump holdover poison pill types who should have been canned asap.

Edited August 10, 20223 yr by Mark F

 

This timeline is bonkers.

When Trump is dead and gone all these bootlickers, enablers, cronies, cultists will all say that he was a disgusting pos waste of skin. People need to constantly remind them of their fealty to Trump for the rest of their live, looking at you Blanche

A couple of developments today: firstly, the section of the FBI that obtained the search warrant (signed off by a Trump-appointed judge) was applied for by the section of the FBI that deals with espionage, and secondly, Trump is refusing to release or show the warrant that was served on him and discloses exactly what the FBI is looking for. All of which indicates that this is serious stuff. Trump is apparently alternating between rage and terror.

56 minutes ago, Tracker said:

A couple of developments today: firstly, the section of the FBI that obtained the search warrant (signed off by a Trump-appointed judge) was applied for by the section of the FBI that deals with espionage, and secondly, Trump is refusing to release or show the warrant that was served on him and discloses exactly what the FBI is looking for. All of which indicates that this is serious stuff. Trump is apparently alternating between rage and terror.

That certainly sounds like the RIght. If they're not raging, they're terrorizing everyone.