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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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1 hour ago, Tracker said:

The Trump GOP has long abandoned shame, truth, guilt and ethics. 

 

Is it possible to abandon something that you never possessed?

13 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

 

Is it possible to abandon something that you never possessed?

Before the 1950's the GOP was the moderate, humane party, and friend to minorities. During the Kennedy era, the two parties switched allegiances and policies with the mutation becoming complete with the arrival of Ronald Reagan. 

On 2022-04-03 at 5:53 PM, Tracker said:

The Trump GOP has long abandoned shame, truth, guilt and ethics. All that they are interested in is "owning the libs" and gaining power at any cost. If it means the destruction of democracy and allying themselves with people like Putin, so be it.

I use to think there’s got to be more to it then this but no it’s this simple and Garland and crew are no where to be seen.

14 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I use to think there’s got to be more to it then this but no it’s this simple and Garland and crew are no where to be seen.

Garland's reputation is that he is brilliant, but methodical and Trump is a very big fish that he is trying to land. Trump will have the best lawyers that money can buy, so the case against him has to be airtight. Moreover, having Trump and his abettors in the docket just before and during the pending mid-term elections would not harm the Democrats' election chances at all. 

It ought to be quite a spectacle.

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34 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Trump will have the best lawyers that money can buy

Well the best lawyers who will work for the risk of not getting paid anyway. 

 

21 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Well the best lawyers who will work for the risk of not getting paid anyway. 

 

These people are smart enough to demand and get a seven-figure retainer in advance.

Top Florida faith adviser dismissed after sexual assault history revealed
   
A member of the Florida Governor’s Faith and Community-Based Initiative was recently dismissed from his role as a deacon of Clearwater’s Calvary Church after it was revealed he had a history of sexual misconduct when he was a teacher.

Rev. Willy Rice told his congregation in a video that the deacon was stepping down over a past that involved “sexual sin that could also be described as abusive,” Religion News Service reports.

“It did not involve criminal charges, and he has never been identified by law as a sexual offender,” Rice also said.

“Religion News Service has confirmed that the former deacon is Jeff Ford, the executive director of Man Up and Go, a Christian nonprofit in the U.S. and overseas whose Authentic Masculinity Program ‘teaches men how to be protectors of and providers for their families,’ according to the biography of Ford posted on the website of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. According to that website, Ford is a member of the state’s Faith-Based and Community-Based Advisory Council.”

In 2005, the Tampa Bay Times newspaper reported that Jeffrey Charles Ford, a 27-year-old coach and teacher at J.W. Mitchell High School, resigned after admitting to having sex with an 18-year-old student.

Ford’s bio on the Florida Governor’s website calls Man Up and Go “a global non-profit organization that inspires men to fight for the fatherless as Jesus commands. The organization aims to break the cycle of generational fatherlessness,” and operates “in Uganda, Ethiopia, and the Dominican Republic.”

https://www.alternet.org/2022/04/top-florida-faith-adviser-dismissed/

The crazies want Musk to put Trump back on Twitter.

7 minutes ago, bustamente said:

The crazies want Musk to put Trump back on Twitter.

Musk is freedom advocate. Just his freedom, though, ef everyone else. 

Just like Trump. 

 

It'll be fun to watch the heads of the GQP, QAnon, and MAGAt Brigade explode over this.

20 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

What a piece of ignorant ****.

And Gaetz should stay away from hookers, particularly underage ones. 

(The Troglodytes are in power in Oklahoma)

Oklahoma House Sends Aggressive Abortion Ban To Governor

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — The Oklahoma House gave final legislative approval on Tuesday to a bill that would make performing an abortion a felony, punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

With little discussion and no debate, the Republican-controlled House voted 70-14 to send the bill to Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt, who has previously said he’d sign any anti-abortion bill that comes to his desk.

The bill is one of several anti-abortion measures still alive in Oklahoma’s Legislature this year, part of a trend of GOP-led states passing aggressive anti-abortion legislation as the conservative U.S. Supreme Court is considering ratcheting back abortion rights that have been in place for nearly 50 years.

The Oklahoma bill, which passed the Senate last year, makes an exception only for an abortion performed to save the life of the mother, said GOP state Rep. Jim Olsen, of Roland, who sponsored the bill. Under the bill, a person convicted of performing an abortion would face up to 10 years in prison and a $100,000 fine.

“The penalties are for the doctor, not for the woman,” Olsen said.

Similar anti-abortion bills approved by the Oklahoma Legislature in recent years have been stopped by the courts as unconstitutional.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Condemned For One Of Her Vilest Tweets Yet
The extremist Republican's attack on three colleagues was beyond the pale to many critics on Twitter.  Conspiracy theory-endorsing Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) faced fierce backlash on Monday for a vile attack on three fellow Republicans.

Greene used her congressional account to tweet the baseless accusation that GOP Sens. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Susan Collins (Maine) and Mitt Romney (Utah) are “pro-pedophile” because they said will vote to confirm Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court.

During Jackson’s Senate confirmation hearings, GOP lawmakers falsely accused Brown of being lenient in cases involving photos of child sexual abuse.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marjorie-taylor-greene-republicans-vile-tweet_n_624bf8e4e4b0d8266ab091dd

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And in other US-politic related news, the nutbar segment of the GOP is attacking Disney for opposing Florida's "Don't say gay" policies, as well as attacking Oreo for displaying diversity in advertising, and apparently the current nominee for the SCOTUS for being (in their eyes) pro-pedophilia.

Crazier and crazier.

The Accused at the  Nuremberg trials did have lawyers.

"Former Nazis were allowed to serve as counsel[48] and by mid-November all defendants had lawyers. The defendants' lawyers jointly appealed to the court, claiming it did not have jurisdiction against the accused, but this motion was rejected."

the right to be represented is fundamental to a fair trial, one of the most important FrEEeDomS.


 

not that those idiots have any understanding of that.

taking the people we do not like outside and shooting them is not the way to go.

 

 

Edited by Mark F

 

 

                      This is some peak irony

Oh, look what Koch money is doing now. 

 

13 hours ago, bustamente said:

 

 

 

                                      I had a presentation for management and I used the penultimate sentence as the punchline. The CEO put me in charge of the marketing campaign. Things change but people don't.

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