Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

14 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Republicans are the problem, trump is just a symptom. 

You can't unite the country when one side is responsible for the tribalism. It can't wait, the cancer that is the republican party needs to be fixed.

That's why Never Trumpers and the Lincoln Project are such frauds. They support his policies, they just don't like him saying stuff out loud that they've been doing for 50 years. They like their grift on the down low. 

1 hour ago, JCon said:

That's why Never Trumpers and the Lincoln Project are such frauds. They support his policies, they just don't like him saying stuff out loud that they've been doing for 50 years. They like their grift on the down low. 

That's just it. They are ok with the shitty policy, but don't like the guy saying it out loud.

 

How can the GOP be that bad?   When all I can see, when I look around.....are legions of concerned Republicans

Until they fix this feedback loop to weaponize misinformation, the USA is pretty ******.

 

 

It’s not really going that well...his shirt was untucked, his mouth misspoke his words, he didn’t understand some questions and he didn’t have many answers. Other than that, it went fine.

“The Trump campaign has been treated totally differently than the Bush campaign,” 
Giuliani said, misstating the name of President-elect Biden.

It was Rudolph W. Giuliani’s first appearance in federal court since the early 1990s, and by late afternoon Tuesday, it was clear that U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann was losing patience with President Trump’s personal attorney.”

 

???

 

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

???

 

wow.

 

how much did that cost?

or, whose name did the general have in his files.

I was always amazed that Noriega didnt have some photos stashed.

Edited November 18, 20205 yr by Mark F

They found out that the former General was actually peddling a product known as Orange Ecstasy

12 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Agreed, we need scorched-earth Democrats.

Play for keeps, show the same disregard for shame that the GOP show.

The prosecution of the Trump mafia (including his family) must be as dispassionate as possible. The Trumpers will scream persecution and witch hunts but its not as if this will be anything new for them. The DOJ needs to flip a few and then the floodgates will open as everyone tries to throw everyone else under the bus to save their own skins.

Edited November 19, 20205 yr by Tracker

What they’d rather have on their resumés...

 

People being infected and dying, businesses closing, a President hiding in the WH and spewing out crazy tweets at a dizzying rate who cares pass the cranberry sauce

 

59 minutes ago, bustamente said:

People being infected and dying, businesses closing, a President hiding in the WH and spewing out crazy tweets at a dizzying rate who cares pass the cranberry sauce

 

This means that 12 million Americans will be without any income as of December 1st- just in time for the holidays. The bastards.

General cienfuego now released......just two weeks ago.....

 

this is rancid.

 

ap

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Mexico’s former defense secretary helped a cartel smuggle thousands of kilograms of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana into the United States in exchange for bribes, according to court documents unsealed Friday.

Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, 72, acted on behalf of the H-2 cartel while defense secretary from 2012 to 2018 under former President Enrique Pena Nieto, authorities said. 

Thousands of intercepted BlackBerry messages show the general ensured military operations were not conducted against the cartel, and that operations were initiated against rivals, according to prosecutors. Cienfuegos allegedly introduced cartel leaders to other corrupt Mexican officials.

Cienfuegos — also known as “El Padrino,” or “The Godfather,” according to the indictment — is accused of alerting cartel leaders to a U.S. law enforcement investigation into its operations and the use of cooperating witnesses and informants, which resulted in the murder of a member of the cartel that leaders incorrectly believed was assisting U.S. law enforcement authorities. 

Intercepted communications between Cienfuegos and a senior cartel leader discussed the general’s historical assistance to another drug trafficking organization, as well as communications in which the defendant is identified by name, title and photograph as the Mexican government official assisting the H-2 cartel, authorities said.

 

the  American "war on drugs" is a joke.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 20205 yr by Mark F

It’s like when they get elected, they get a brochure on “how to/when to” make money on inside info.

 

4 hours ago, Mark F said:

General cienfuego now released......just two weeks ago.....

 

this is rancid.

 

ap

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Mexico’s former defense secretary helped a cartel smuggle thousands of kilograms of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana into the United States in exchange for bribes, according to court documents unsealed Friday.

Gen. Salvador Cienfuegos Zepeda, 72, acted on behalf of the H-2 cartel while defense secretary from 2012 to 2018 under former President Enrique Pena Nieto, authorities said. 

Thousands of intercepted BlackBerry messages show the general ensured military operations were not conducted against the cartel, and that operations were initiated against rivals, according to prosecutors. Cienfuegos allegedly introduced cartel leaders to other corrupt Mexican officials.

Cienfuegos — also known as “El Padrino,” or “The Godfather,” according to the indictment — is accused of alerting cartel leaders to a U.S. law enforcement investigation into its operations and the use of cooperating witnesses and informants, which resulted in the murder of a member of the cartel that leaders incorrectly believed was assisting U.S. law enforcement authorities. 

Intercepted communications between Cienfuegos and a senior cartel leader discussed the general’s historical assistance to another drug trafficking organization, as well as communications in which the defendant is identified by name, title and photograph as the Mexican government official assisting the H-2 cartel, authorities said.

 

the  American "war on drugs" is a joke.

 

 

 

 

And has been for decades. The examples of Switzerland and Portugal clearly show that there is a viable alternative to clogging up the courts.

The president of the United States in having a press conference, no not that one he is busy hiding behind fencing in the WH, the Vice President elect talks then the President elect talks then questions from the press, no one is called nasty, he didn't repeat him self or self congratulate himself constantly, interesting concept.

On 2020-11-18 at 3:42 PM, Mr Dee said:

???

 

Quid Pro Quo, I'm sure. Money in Barr's pocket. 

 

I'm assuming they can refile once the crook is out of office?

6 hours ago, Mark F said:

the  American "war on drugs" is a joke.

IT's about locking up as many black and brown people as possible. So far, they're doing a bang up job. 

Whatever you may think about AOC, she knows how to slap you down.

 

13 hours ago, bustamente said:

Whatever you may think about AOC, she knows how to slap you down.

 

Hopefully, she leads a new, strong Democratic party into the future. The likes of Pelosi, Feinstein, Grassley all need to get out of the effing way. 

NO. Your empty words means nothing Mitty boy. 
Actions are what counts, and you’re wayyy too inactive.

 

Edited November 20, 20205 yr by Mr Dee

Everyone enabling Trump during the past four years and those interfering with the transition in whatever capacity need to be investigated, and "the president ordered me to do it" is not a get out of jail free card. 

NSFW

Spoiler

 

 

Edited November 20, 20205 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

3 hours ago, bustamente said:

Everyone enabling Trump during the past four years and those interfering with the transition in whatever capacity need to be investigated, and "the president ordered me to do it" is not a get out of jail free card. 

I've posted this before. Trump and all his miscreants need to be investigated and vigorously prosecuted where appropriate but transparently and within the confines of the law. Engaging in specious prosecutions will destroy the credibility of the incoming Democrat administration and justify the GOP wailings of persecution. The GOP and Trump will do this regardless, but should not be given any justification.   The Democrats have to show that they have the moral high ground or many of the voters who supported them in 2020 will abandon them for a very long time.

YOUR DAILY WTF : Critics slam president's pal after he suggested COVID vaccine be named 'The Trump'
   
Geraldo Rivera suggested that the coronavirus vaccine be named after President Donald Trump to make him feel better about losing the presidential election and Twitter users quickly fired back.

During an appearance on Fox & Friends, Rivera proposed a wild idea of naming the coronavirus vaccine "The Trump." He even went a step further to offer dialogue examples of how that suggestion would work. According to Rivera, naming the vaccine after Trump could be a way to "honor" following his election loss.