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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell expands from manufacturing masks to sourcing them after call with Trump

Written by Roger Sollenberger / Salon May 7, 2020

Mike Lindell, the founder of the MyPillow Company, has made good on his Rose Garden promise to produce and distribute medical masks to healthcare facilities around the country, a spokeswoman told Salon.

But in what would appear to be a previously-unannounced dimension to the operation, Lindell is also apparently “sourcing” masks, the spokeswoman said.

Fawning over Trump has its benefits.

I’m with you on everything other than when you write who he fights for. He fights for no one except himself. I‘m thinking if push came to shove he wouldn’t even fight for family members. 

42 minutes ago, do or die said:

Big part of this is a lot of the MAGA folks, caught in a intellectual and emotional cul-de-sac.  

For years, they have been bombarded by right wing media, telling them that are "victims" of many insidious forces - Immigrants, foreigners, media, and the traditional institutions of government, (deep state) that have banded together to deny them, what they truly deserve.  

This also ties in well with the general xenophobic and racist thinking in certain quarters on the Right  Hatred of the "elites", also is handy for resisting environmental concerns, and debunking higher education and science.

On the surface, pretty strange that some working people still look to Trump - who manly fights for the 1%ers, dividend holders and other "elites", to protect their interests.  But, Trump has to be right.....or every thing they have been told, and believe is a total lie and a giant fraud.

Too bad.....it is. 

I guess any job is better than no job at all. 

1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I’m with you on everything other than when you write who he fights for. He fights for no one except himself. I‘m thinking if push came to shove he wouldn’t even fight for family members. 

Of course, but a lot of pretty deluded people think otherwise.    And Trump has a track record of making life easier for certain corporate concerns (tax cuts, massive deregulation)

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Mike Lindell, the founder of the MyPillow Company, has made good on his Rose Garden promise to produce and distribute medical masks to healthcare facilities around the country, a spokeswoman told Salon.

Aren’t pillows a bit too big for masks?

Soaking of fawning over trump. 

Neat trick. Plead guilty and Barr’s DOJ still said no no that’s okay.  

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Soaking of fawning over trump. 

Neat trick. Plead guilty and Barr’s DOJ still said no no that’s okay.  

Flynn was just being sarcastic......

Woman who accused Fauci of sex assault now says Trump supporters paid her to lie
Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony S. Fauci attends a coronavirus update briefing Tuesday, April 7, 2020, in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House. 
Written by Travis Gettys / Raw Story May 7, 2020
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A woman who had accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of sexual assault now claims she was paid to lie about the public health expert by a pair of President Donald Trump’s supporters.

The woman says right-wing provocateur Jacob Wohl and his frequent accomplice Jack Burkman persuaded her to cast Fauci as the assailant using details from an actual sexual assault she survived just after high school, and they paid her to do it, reported Reason.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/woman-who-accused-fauci-of-sex-assault-now-says-trump-supporters-paid-her-to-lie/


 

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Flynn was just being sarcastic......

Trump has both said and intimated that anyone who does his bidding would be pardoned, and in that, al least, he is keeping his promise. 

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Woman who accused Fauci of sex assault now says Trump supporters paid her to lie
Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony S. Fauci attends a coronavirus update briefing Tuesday, April 7, 2020, in the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House. 
Written by Travis Gettys / Raw Story May 7, 2020
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A woman who had accused Dr. Anthony Fauci of sexual assault now claims she was paid to lie about the public health expert by a pair of President Donald Trump’s supporters.

The woman says right-wing provocateur Jacob Wohl and his frequent accomplice Jack Burkman persuaded her to cast Fauci as the assailant using details from an actual sexual assault she survived just after high school, and they paid her to do it, reported Reason.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/05/woman-who-accused-fauci-of-sex-assault-now-says-trump-supporters-paid-her-to-lie/


 

If true, this is example number one of why, under these conditions, you have to be wise to the set up.  There was another example too...those alt right clowns trying to push allegations against Mueller

3 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Trump has both said and intimated that anyone who does his bidding would be pardoned, and in that, al least, he is keeping his promise. 

This one is weird because Flynn apparently flipped.  Mueller wrote a letter asking for leniency due to Flynn's cooperation which was allegedly significant.  In fact, he was charged with lesser crimes for that reason so when say oh its a BS charge anyway, it was the result of a plea bargain and he would have faced more severe charges.

He plead guilty and there is no doubt he is guilty.  He admitted it and its right there in black and white.  Trump even tweeted that Flynn was fired for lying.  But to Trump and his ilk, Flynn is a patriot because you can lie, cheat & steal as long as its for the right side.  

This isnt even a pardon, which Trump would have to wear.  Its Barr dropping the whole case.  Quite something.

Makes Trump look better if the DOJ drops the charges instead of Trump pardoning a confessed traitor and liar

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Kamala Harris, potential vp candidate has called for Barr to resign, if the Dems win the Senate and Presidency Barr better find himself so nice property in Russia

57 minutes ago, do or die said:

Of course, but a lot of pretty deluded people think otherwise.    And Trump has a track record of making life easier for certain corporate concerns (tax cuts, massive deregulation)

And he wouldn't even do these things if there weren't something in it for him.

17 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Barr better find himself so nice property in Russia

What is it they call it when you're forced to stop practicing law any longer? There’s a term for that. I just can’t remember it at this time...

25 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Makes Trump look better if the DOJ drops the charges instead of Trump pardoning a confessed traitor and liar

Trump just said he had no idea, that this would happen......after screaming for it for months

9 minutes ago, do or die said:

Trump just said he had no idea, that this would happen......after screaming for it for months

Trump couldn't get Comey to be his stoolie but Barr is more than willing to crawl up Trump's arse

DOJ on full deflection mode for Trump today, first Flynn now wanting the SC to block grand jury material from Democratic lawmakers,  pardon for Stone when deaths reach 100K ?, you have to wonder how deaths for a full pardon for Manafort.

Just now, bustamente said:

DOJ on full deflection mode for Trump today, first Flynn now wanting the SC to block grand jury material from Democratic lawmakers,  pardon for Stone when deaths reach 100K ?, you have to wonder how deaths for a full pardon for Manafort.

It’s a bit scary. What more will they do we get closer to the election and a probable Biden landslide?

37 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

What is it they call it when you're forced to stop practicing law any longer? There’s a term for that. I just can’t remember it at this time...

Disbarment.

14 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

It’s a bit scary. What more will they do we get closer to the election and a probable Biden landslide?

I would not rule out either a scorched earth policy or incitement to violence. Trump will intimate but probably not directly call for violence in response to an election loss.

Trump spews a disturbing and angry rant about the Obama administration over the Flynn case
MSNBC
Written by David Badash / The New Civil Rights Movement May 7, 2020
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President Donald Trump is baselessly accusing the Obama administration of “treason,”  following the news the Dept. of Justice has dropped all charges against his former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, despite Flynn having pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

“The Obama administration Justice Department was a disgrace, and they got caught, they got caught,” Trump claimed, which is false. “Very dishonest people, but much more than – it’s treason, it’s treason.”

Trump is forgetting a few things.  Namely the special counsel was a republican appointed by trumps DOJ. Namely Rosenstein who was a trump appointee who had to approve everything Mueller did including the charges to Flynn and his guilty plea.  
 

 

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