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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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A renowned psychotherapist assesses Trump:

Q: What do you think Donald Trump will do if, shortly before Nov. 3, it appears clear that he is going to lose the election?

Rather than making a prediction as to Trump’s specific actions, it is more helpful to describe the type of actions he will take. Rather than trying to say, “This is the move he’ll make.” Like in a relationship, Donald Trump is the abuser. He is the husband or father who is abusing his partner or children or other relatives. The American people are like a woman who is leaving her abuser. She tells her abuser, “That’s it! I am done with you!” She has her keys in hand and is opening the door of the house or apartment to finally leave. What happens? The democidal maniac Donald Trump will attack us, badly. Make no mistake. Donald Trump is going to find a way to attack and cause great harm to the American people if he believes that he will lose the 2020 election.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychotherapist-breaks-down-the-4-components-of-trumps-malignant-narcissism-and-explains-the-presidents-addiction-to-destruction/

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

A renowned psychotherapist assesses Trump:

Q: What do you think Donald Trump will do if, shortly before Nov. 3, it appears clear that he is going to lose the election?

Rather than making a prediction as to Trump’s specific actions, it is more helpful to describe the type of actions he will take. Rather than trying to say, “This is the move he’ll make.” Like in a relationship, Donald Trump is the abuser. He is the husband or father who is abusing his partner or children or other relatives. The American people are like a woman who is leaving her abuser. She tells her abuser, “That’s it! I am done with you!” She has her keys in hand and is opening the door of the house or apartment to finally leave. What happens? The democidal maniac Donald Trump will attack us, badly. Make no mistake. Donald Trump is going to find a way to attack and cause great harm to the American people if he believes that he will lose the 2020 election.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychotherapist-breaks-down-the-4-components-of-trumps-malignant-narcissism-and-explains-the-presidents-addiction-to-destruction/

Wow... that was an eye opener- thanks.

GOP Candidates Advised To Not Defend Trump

The Republican Party has seemingly given up on defending President Donald Trump’s widely criticized response to the COVID-19 pandemic and is now advising its Senate candidates to instead put the blame on China.  Politico reports that the National Republican Senatorial Committee is making attacks on China the centerpiece of its efforts to deflect blame for the crisis, while at the same time trying to paint Democrats as being “weak” on China.

In a memo sent out to Senate candidates, the committee says that prospective senators should praise Trump’s China travel ban, but should otherwise avoid getting into a debate about how he’s handled the crisis.

“Don’t defend Trump, other than the China Travel Ban — attack China,” states the memo, which also describes COVID-19 as “a Chinese hit-and-run followed by a cover-up that cost thousands of lives.”

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/national-gop-senatorial-committee-memo-warns-candidates-dont-defend-trump-on-pandemic-response/

TRUMP TURNS ON FAUX NEWS

President Donald Trump demanded an "alternative" to Fox News over the weekend as he accused the right-leaning network of disseminating Democratic talking points "without hesitation or research."

The president publicly called out some of his favorite targets at the conservative cable channel, including former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., who is on the board of Fox News' parent company. The president smeared the former GOP vice presidential nominee as a "RINO," or Republican in name only. 

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/27/trump-demands-an-alternative-to-fox-news-as-he-accuses-the-network-of-spreading-misinformation/

43 minutes ago, Tracker said:

TRUMP TURNS ON FAUX NEWS

President Donald Trump demanded an "alternative" to Fox News over the weekend as he accused the right-leaning network of disseminating Democratic talking points "without hesitation or research."

The president publicly called out some of his favorite targets at the conservative cable channel, including former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., who is on the board of Fox News' parent company. The president smeared the former GOP vice presidential nominee as a "RINO," or Republican in name only. 

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/27/trump-demands-an-alternative-to-fox-news-as-he-accuses-the-network-of-spreading-misinformation/

I would love to see fox and trump turn on each other... that would be really awesome to watch!

1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I would love to see fox and trump turn on each other... that would be really awesome to watch!

It would be awesome, but unlikely. If Faux news weren't praising or lying about Trump, they would have nothing at all to present. 

If this is real and has not be doctored and I was an American I would be **** scarred

 

19 minutes ago, bustamente said:

If this is real and has not be doctored and I was an American I would be **** scarred

 

Can't make out what he said

20 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Can't make out what he said

I think it's "hello everybody"

GOP DOES DAMAGE CONTROL-AGAIN.

On Monday, April 27, according to Isenstadt, Trump campaign adviser Justin Clark expressed his “displeasure” to Kevin McLaughlin, executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) — angrily telling McLaughlin that any Republican candidate who followed the advice of the memo should not expect the campaign’s support.

McLaughlin, Isenstadt reports, “responded by saying he agreed with the Trump campaign’s position and —  according to two people familiar with the conversation — clarified that the committee wasn’t advising candidates to not defend Trump over his response.” According to Isenstadt, McLaughlin stressed to Clark that the memo wasn’t saying that Trump shouldn’t be defended on coronavirus but rather, was offering advice on how he should be defended.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/trump-campaign-angrily-responds-to-nrsc-memo-urging-republicans-not-to-defend-the-president-on-coronavirus-response/

 
30 minutes ago, Tracker said:

GOP DOES DAMAGE CONTROL-AGAIN.

On Monday, April 27, according to Isenstadt, Trump campaign adviser Justin Clark expressed his “displeasure” to Kevin McLaughlin, executive director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) — angrily telling McLaughlin that any Republican candidate who followed the advice of the memo should not expect the campaign’s support.

McLaughlin, Isenstadt reports, “responded by saying he agreed with the Trump campaign’s position and —  according to two people familiar with the conversation — clarified that the committee wasn’t advising candidates to not defend Trump over his response.” According to Isenstadt, McLaughlin stressed to Clark that the memo wasn’t saying that Trump shouldn’t be defended on coronavirus but rather, was offering advice on how he should be defended.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/trump-campaign-angrily-responds-to-nrsc-memo-urging-republicans-not-to-defend-the-president-on-coronavirus-response/

 

The GoP were so afraid of trump last time that they sold their souls.  If the polls continue to be abysmal heading into the election you’ll see the GOP putting their big boy pants on a lot more often and telling him to get lost. 
 

The fear was always that he’d split the party.  And he will regardless.  They’ll be a trump party.  Ofcourse if he and his family are all in jail that may not happen. But if the GOP thinks trump is a hindrance they won’t care.  

Which one is the incumbent?  So much for the covid bump

 

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The GOP were so afraid of trump last time that they sold their souls.  If the polls continue to be abysmal heading into the election you’ll see the GOP putting their big boy pants on a lot more often and telling him to get lost. 

The fear was always that he’d split the party.  And he will regardless.  They’ll be a trump party.  Of course if he and his family are all in jail that may not happen. But if the GOP thinks trump is a hindrance they won’t care.  

I maintain that if the polls continue to show a downward slide to oblivion for the GOP with Trump being the main reason, they will have to consider dumping him, and if they think that they can appear heroic by impeaching Trump, they absolutely will. They may even secretly negotiate with the Democrats that if another impeachment hearing is initiated by the Dems, the GOP will abstain and let Trump be impeached and removed from office by default. 

Serves them right......the GOP has allowed (and in some quarters, encouraged) their former right wing reactionary and religious nutty fringe, to step into the mainstream, while continue to spew their xenophobic, racist, misogynistic, views and conspiracy theories.  In fact, though Trump, they now actually dictate party policy. 

The "adults in the room" who were supposed to hold the reins on the Don......have turned out to be, almost without exception - utterly gutless lapdogs, who simply stand by and let Trump torch every facet, of whatever probity, decency, dignity and values... the Republican Party may of had, in the past.   

They have totally failed themselves, their party and the nation.    A very long timeout (out of power) is required, at this point.

15 hours ago, Tracker said:

It would be awesome, but unlikely. If Faux news weren't praising or lying about Trump, they would have nothing at all to present. 

Nonsense. They can turn on Trump and make a whole day of how this conman was a RINO all along and how real conservatives will save the day from New York elites like trump.

17 minutes ago, do or die said:

The "adults in the room" who were supposed to hold the reins on the Don......have turned out to be, almost without exception - utterly gutless lapdogs, who simply stand by and let Trump torch every facet, of whatever probity, decency, dignity and values... the Republican Party may of had, in the past.   

The adults in the room were too busy gorging at the trough and drunk on power to care, now they're all realizing what their inactions have done.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

I maintain that if the polls continue to show a downward slide to oblivion for the GOP with Trump being the main reason, they will have to consider dumping him, and if they think that they can appear heroic by impeaching Trump, they absolutely will. They may even secretly negotiate with the Democrats that if another impeachment hearing is initiated by the Dems, the GOP will abstain and let Trump be impeached and removed from office by default. 

No point in impeaching now.  Too close to an election.  And I dont think they'd dump Trump this late since he'd run as an independent and split the vote anyway.  I could see calls to dump Pence, even late into the election.  They might go with a more dynamic running mate to try and juice the polls a bit.  But even then, any bump would be temporary with Trump.  They'd literally have to dump Pence in October and try to ride a bump.  

The nuclear option would be Trump accepting he's toast and quitting over "medical reasons" so he can say he never really lost.

28 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

No point in impeaching now.  Too close to an election.  And I dont think they'd dump Trump this late since he'd run as an independent and split the vote anyway.  I could see calls to dump Pence, even late into the election.  They might go with a more dynamic running mate to try and juice the polls a bit.  But even then, any bump would be temporary with Trump.  They'd literally have to dump Pence in October and try to ride a bump.  

The nuclear option would be Trump accepting he's toast and quitting over "medical reasons" so he can say he never really lost.

Trump's ego and personality will not allow him to resign- he will poison every well in a scorched earth policy before that happens.  Trump will never finance his own campaign 

Trump will win. People are that dumb. I have no faith in humanity at this point.

Mike Pence the "cardboard cutout of VP's"

Trump will lose Michigan, Pennsylvania, possibly Wisconsin and Florida is in play, the only way he wins will be by cheating again

30 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump will lose Michigan, Pennsylvania, possibly Wisconsin and Florida is in play, the only way he wins will be by cheating again

Should Trump lose by a narrow margin, he will refuse to accept the results. If he loses in a landslide, he will go ballistic. Either way, he will allege, with no proof at all, that there was massive election fraud, just as he did last time. His hand-picked investigative committee found no irregularities at all and were ordered to not submit a report that would contradict Trump. 

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