Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

 

Straight out of Alex Jones, crackpot.

Trump shitz on the NSA, CIA, FBI, Homeland security, but has full faith in Q anon.

Whole Lot of stupid down there.

 

IMPEACHED!

 

 

Disgraceful.  

 

Important to remember.  And honestly they shouldn’t send it to the senate as long as senators are promising to a fake trial.  They should frame the senate as corrupt and refuse to send articles 

 

Let Trump twist in the wind for a while, have reporters ask him repeatedly about being impeached, because once the Senate clears him he will be crowing about being vindicated till the next election.

On 2019-12-17 at 8:03 PM, Goalie said:

I muted and blocked Trump on twitter. Ive probably blocked 200 or more Trump tards yet this crap still shows up on my timeline. 

yeah I have that problem too on twitter, I wish twitter would allow us remove a trending topic we don't want to see on the site like facebook did when they had trends

Mentioned earlier but worth watching this video. It really sums up the type of gross person trump is.  He thinks every honour a person earns is his to dole out like currency and nothing he does for anyone is free.  
 

he has to tear down everyone to satisfy his own incredibly fragile ego.  It really shows how he was compromised by Russia and why he feels so indebted to them.  Nothing is free. Everything is currency.  
 

 

Fortunately in the middle of the chaos.....some Republican Senators are taking a measured and sober view of the proceedings.   Like the guy who compared Trump and the impeachment process to Jesus and the Cross, and another.....who compared yesterday to Pearl Harbour.

You have to read this twitter thread. A summary of trumps Long rambling rally last night.  It’s absurd.  He’s losing his mind. 
 

 

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

  It’s absurd.  He’s losing his mind. 
 

 

You make it sound like that just happened.....

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by do or die

This is telling.  Trump thinks witnesses will lie for him.  Mitch knows most people won’t risk jail for trump and the truth would be very bad.  
 

I can’t fathom why the GOP would announce publicly that they were biased and intended to run a quick show trial.  They have the Dems all the leverage in the world to refuse to send articles under those conditions.  

Edited December 20, 20196 yr by The Unknown Poster

 

16 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

I can’t fathom why the GOP would announce publicly that they were biased and intended to run a quick show trial.

Cause they always have done this, and have always gotten away clean. See "Brooks brothers riot", Ronald Reagan Iran contra,

 

14 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Cause they always have done this, and have always gotten away clean. See "Brooks brothers riot", Ronald Reagan Iran contra,

 

Yup I suspect they were trying to get the dems to give up and not even go through with it.

one obvious problem they have:

 

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Each state, regardless of population or size, has two senators.

North Dakota, has the same number of Senators as New York State.

Makes no sense whatsoever.

13 minutes ago, Mark F said:

one obvious problem they have:

 

North Dakota, has the same number of Senators as New York State.

Makes no sense whatsoever.

It does if you think that the country is made up of 50 individual states which have their own rights and separation of powers. They are united with common federal laws but distinctly separate powers. 

 

It may be a relic of the past, like the electoral college, like the two-party system, like the primaries but means that Montana has the same voice as Florida, as Alaska, as Texas, and so on. It's meant as a balance. 

1 hour ago, JCon said:

They are united with common federal laws but distinctly separate powers. 

they can and do run their own state government. And they can run it any way they want, within the law, with no say  any other state.

a state with a population of one million people should not have the same control over national affairs as a state with fifty million, and the 7th lar

gest economy in the world, California for instance.

This makes no sense to me at all.

Each North Dakota vote is far more valuable in a federal election, than each California vote.

I think that's wrong, and it's part of what's brought to where they are now.

Edited December 20, 20196 yr by Mark F

This is the new radical right narrative.  That trump wasn’t really impeached because House hasn’t sent the articles to senate.  Ofcourse it’s totally wrong.  White House is pushing this too.  
 

 

19 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

his is the new radical right narrative.

... America has crossed over into.....

 

Edited December 20, 20196 yr by Mark F

Trump running US government.

 

Haha read the letter.  She’s just messing with him now

 

 

Meanwhile, in Washington State:

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/washington-state-rep-matt-shea-engaged-in-domestic-terrorism-against-the-u-s-says-state-house-inquiry/#comments

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State Rep. Matt Shea planned and participated in domestic terrorism against the United States before and during the armed takeover at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, an investigation commissioned by the Washington state House found.

The WA state government is thoroughly democratic, but the state GOP has kicked Shea out of their caucus in response to the investigation.

When you inspire such bipartisan unity in this day and age, you are a special person indeed.

Edited December 20, 20196 yr by johnzo

So long