Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

This is pretty crazy considering Nunes sits on the committee investigating this and never told anyone or recused himself.  He’s a damn co conspirator 

 

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

This is pretty crazy considering Nunes sits on the committee investigating this and never told anyone or recused himself.  He’s a damn co conspirator 

 

Isn't this the same guy that when he was a chairman of some committee in the Republican held house that used to go to the WH for secret late night meetings.

21 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Isn't this the same guy that when he was a chairman of some committee in the Republican held house that used to go to the WH for secret late night meetings.

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nunes-surveillance-20170327-story.html

"Reporting from Washington — 

 

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Tulare), conceded Monday that the source for a dramatic statement he made last week about possible intelligence surveillance of members of President Trump’s transition team was someone he had met with at the White House.

The disclosure, showing coordination between the White House and Nunes, added to questions about whether the congressman could lead the intelligence panel in an impartial investigation of Russian involvement in the presidential election and possible links to Trump’s advisers. The panel’s ranking Democrat, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Burbank), issued a statement Monday afternoon saying that Nunes should step aside from the investigation."

 

Hannah Arendt.....written in 1951:

"Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness."

 

 

1 minute ago, Mark F said:

Hannah Arendt.....written in 1951:

"Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness."

 

 

It's almost as if this is trump's playbook.

 

 

Oh no Rudy!

 

Trump is joke and it's hard to see how we could ever rely on the US in a time of need. 

4 minutes ago, JCon said:

 

Trump is joke and it's hard to see how we could ever rely on the US in a time of need. 

Very good point.

20 minutes ago, JCon said:

 

Trump is joke and it's hard to see how we could ever rely on the US in a time of need. 

So... now is the time for Russia to Invade Canada?

38 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So... now is the time for Russia to Invade Canada?

Not really. There was a godawful editorial in the National Post that whined about this.  (Wait, do I have to write godawful National Post editorial or is it common knowledge all editorials in the NP are godawful? I assumed they all are now).

My Nat Sec crush, Stephanie Carvin, addressed this: 

 

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by JCon

This dude is suing cnn for half a billion. Lol

 

The one expert against impeachment supported impeaching Clinton lol

 

So the one expert who says there is no evidence for impeachment said if there was a quid pro quo then you could impeach.   Ummmm the CoS admitted it!

Hahaha

 

7 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

The one expert against impeachment supported impeaching Clinton lol

Funny- this is Turley 23 years ago.

 

“[Turley] did speak to the anger in the country, but he also said that the president’s call was less than perfect. He said that the asking for an investigation into Biden was highly inappropriate. And he (Turley) said that if the facts of a quid pro quo are proven to be true, it is an impeachable offense. So I want to be sure that we understand what even the Republican witness is saying about the conduct of the president of the United States,” Cedric Richmond said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

Why do Republican's yell so much ?

1 minute ago, bustamente said:

Why do Republican's yell so much ?

When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts.

When you have the law on your side, argue the law.

When you have neither, pound the table.

If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide, pure and simple, have all the President's cronies in the WH testify and be question instead claiming absolute immunity.

Great ad 

 

Trumps next job

14 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Better to be "two faced" than a complete "ass face".

Edited December 5, 20196 yr by Throw Long Bannatyne

You know... after everything that has come to light... this makes sense:

 

 

WH pretty well told the Democrats to take a long walk off a short pier today, they know the Republican controlled Senate has Trump's back.

 

 

 

Here is a break down of the corporate tax breaks that would have costed the New Your Tax payer:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-amazons-hq2-means-for-taxpayers-in-new-york-and-virginia-2018-11-14

 

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Here’s how the HQ2 incentives were going to break down

For the Long Island City location, Amazon was going to receive $1.2 billion in refundable tax credits through New York State’s Excelsior Jobs Program if the company created 25,000 net new jobs in New York State by the end of June 2028. New York State had also promised a $505 million capital grant to reimburse Amazon for the costs associated with building its office space.

Amazon also planned to take advantage of incentives through New York City’s Industrial and Commercial Abatement Program and New York City’s Relocation and Employment Assistance Program (REAP). Unlike the incentive offered by state officials, these city programs are available to any businesses that meet their specific requirements. Tax breaks through REAP, for instance, could have added up to $900 million.

 

Edited December 8, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy