Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

 

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Canadians will eventually learn that free speech is not as much offended by calling those who accuse John A. Macdonald of genocide the “PC Brigade” as it is by calling him (and me) genocidists; that denying the right to debate to Faith Goldy is an outrage; that the Paris Climate agreement is the fraud Trump has called it, and that the carbon tax is just a sleazy attempt to raise taxes while claiming to save the Earth. The political intelligence of the United States is in a better condition than ours, and the U.S. is better served by its media than we are by ours, Fake News notwithstanding. Canadians are in no position to disparage the comparative effectiveness and accomplishments of the present U.S. administration.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-canadians-dont-see-the-kavanaugh-episode-for-what-it-is

6 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-canadians-dont-see-the-kavanaugh-episode-for-what-it-is

Do you take this seriously? Honest question. It's an awful opinion piece from one of those rich out of touch assholes ruining the entire world because of their entitlement.

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Do you take this seriously? Honest question. It's an awful opinion piece from one of those rich out of touch assholes ruining the entire world because of their entitlement.

Come on man. This whole "woke" persona you've adopted lately is making Noeller look like Preston Manning.  "Ruining the entire world?" You sound like my brain washed 16 year old niece at Thanksgiving yelling at her bewildered grandparents because they accidentally said we were experiencing an "Indian summer". Lighten up.

Edited October 12, 20187 yr by kelownabomberfan

9 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-canadians-dont-see-the-kavanaugh-episode-for-what-it-is

The PC brigade is mostly (but not always) a myth. When it truly matters, a spade is a spade. Eg. Gomeshi getting fired from the CBC. 

Lol Conrad Black

Why is it whenever there is chatter about something stupid or reckless Trump did or said, someone comes along with a completely irrelevant take on something completely different (a post about Canada in the US politics thread).  I suppose, to be fair, Trump does or says something stupid almost continuously so there's little wiggle room.  Oh well.

A conservative, old, shady rich guy with a murky past goes on the NP to defend the conservative, old, shady rich guys south of the border with equally murky pasts...?

9 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Come on man. This whole "woke" persona you've adopted lately is making Noeller look like Preston Manning.  "Ruining the entire world?" You sound like my brain washed 16 year old niece at Thanksgiving yelling at her bewildered grandparents because they accidentally said we were experiencing an "Indian summer". Lighten up.

Woke nothing, you posted a piece from Conrad Black defending the "elites". Do you honestly think that's an unbiased piece? Guy is just sticking up for his brethren. Old rich conservative white men who suffer from a severe case of affluenza and are threatened when people don't treat them like they're above the law. 

I got no use for that. 

 

2 hours ago, Mark H. said:

The PC brigade is mostly (but not always) a myth. When it truly matters, a spade is a spade. Eg. Gomeshi getting fired from the CBC. 

this is true.

14 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Woke nothing, you posted a piece from Conrad Black defending the "elites". Do you honestly think that's an unbiased piece? Guy is just sticking up for his brethren. Old rich conservative white men who suffer from a severe case of affluenza and are threatened when people don't treat them like they're above the law. 

I got no use for that. 

Fair enough, but he is allowed his opinion.  

 

US President and fam heavily rely on on Saudi money to fund their investments. 

US President calls journalists the enemy. 

Journalist, critical of this relationship, openly investigates the relationship between Saudis and Trumps, gets lured and murdered by the Saudis. 

US intelligence knew of hit beforehand, did nothing. Said nothing. 

Trump says, it's okay that the Saudi's did it, cause money more important than journalists. 

Media: Kanye went to the WH. 

10 minutes ago, JCon said:

US President and fam heavily rely on on Saudi money to fund their investments. 

US President calls journalists the enemy. 

Journalist, critical of this relationship, openly investigates the relationship between Saudis and Trumps, gets lured and murdered by the Saudis. 

US intelligence knew of hit beforehand, did nothing. Said nothing. 

Trump says, it's okay that the Saudi's did it, cause money more important than journalists. 

Media: Kanye went to the WH. 

WOw... that is pretty sad.

Just now, wanna-b-fanboy said:

WOw... that is pretty sad.

Certainly there is more to it than that and I'm not really connecting a lot of things...

 

But remember when the GOP pretended to care about Benghazi? Yeah, that was just a smoke screen. 

There is only one person to blame for this and that is Mohammed bin Salman, a ruthless, reckless, and impulsive leader willing to repress and silence his critics at home and abroad.

12 minutes ago, pigseye said:

There is only one person to blame for this and that is Mohammed bin Salman, a ruthless, reckless, and impulsive leader willing to repress and silence his critics at home and abroad.

Only one person? I would think that you have to include all the enablers.

7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Only one person? I would think that you have to include all the enablers.

Then you better include the Canadian Government

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-saudi-arms-deal-1.4579772

 

1 hour ago, JCon said:

US President and fam heavily rely on on Saudi money to fund their investments. 

US President calls journalists the enemy. 

Journalist, critical of this relationship, openly investigates the relationship between Saudis and Trumps, gets lured and murdered by the Saudis. 

US intelligence knew of hit beforehand, did nothing. Said nothing. 

Trump says, it's okay that the Saudi's did it, cause money more important than journalists. 

Media: Kanye went to the WH. 

Isnt Jared and the Prince besties?  Its not just they knew through intelligence channels, there is an implication they may have had overt knowledge at the highest levels.

1 minute ago, pigseye said:

Then you better include the Canadian Government

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-saudi-arms-deal-1.4579772

 

I certainly do.

Just now, The Unknown Poster said:

Isnt Jared and the Prince besties?  Its not just they knew through intelligence channels, there is an implication they may have had overt knowledge at the highest levels.

They are BFFs. 

I believe the Saudis hold a bulk of the debt in Jared's Park Avenue "investment". They own him. 

23 minutes ago, pigseye said:

There is only one person to blame for this and that is Mohammed bin Salman, a ruthless, reckless, and impulsive leader willing to repress and silence his critics at home and abroad.

That's not true.  There is plenty of blame to go around.  Often in a murder case, the person actually dealing the death blow isnt on trial alone.   The Saudi's have a lot of enablers around the world.  And the US, regardless of admin, is complicit in the enabling.  But we have a US president right now who pooh-pooh's any suggestion of consequences because of the money the US makes and the money he personally makes.  We have one of the highest ranking members of the admin communicating with the price before the murder.  

But mostly, without any consequences, its approval to keep doing what they're doing.

The anti-media rhetoric of the President could certainly lead one to believe he wouldnt mind a critical journalist being "detained" by the Saudis.  When Trump starts nitpicking about citizen vs permanent resident, you know how he feels about it...you know how little value he places on that life.  He might not have been happy, but if he was, it sure wouldnt surprise me (or most people).

2 minutes ago, JCon said:

They are BFFs. 

I believe the Saudis hold a bulk of the debt in Jared's Park Avenue "investment". They own him. 

Not hard to imagine a scenario where he was told "we're going to take this guy out and we expect you to 'believe' us when we deny it".

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Not hard to imagine a scenario where he was told "we're going to take this guy out and we expect you to 'believe' us when we deny it".

That's a complete stretch man, you're suggesting they were complicit in murder, stop and think about what you just wrote. 

1 minute ago, pigseye said:

That's a complete stretch man, you're suggesting they were complicit in murder, stop and think about what you just wrote. 

There is a tweet in this thread where they admit US intelligence had advanced warning there was a set up to detain this guy. When asked why they didnt warn him, silence.  Think about it.