Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

7 minutes ago, do or die said:

The lawyer behind Manifort's Ukraine lobbing effort has been charged with lying to Mueller's Special Council Team.   He is also the son-in law to Russian oligarch German Khan

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/law-firm-associate-pleads-guilty-mueller-lying   

Couple of logical takeaways:

Message to people who think they will lie to Mueller's people
Message to the Russians
Message to Manifort

But instead....I expect:

BOMBSHELL! TRUMP INNOCENT!  NO COLLUSION!  POW!!  MUELLER FRAUD!!  WITCH HUNT CONTINUES!!

 

 

Might be more pressure on Manafort to flip.

26 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Might be more pressure on Manafort to flip.

You mean something like this?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374586-officials-identified-over-40-million-in-suspicious-transactions

This goes back to when Zwaan, Manafort and Gates all worked on an election campaign in the Ukraine back in 2012?

Very exciting news.  

Still don't know what Bannon is telling Mueller about certain people within the WH.   Kushner and Trump Jr. are probably not on his Christmas list. 

BTW...whatever happened to the ole "red line" about Mueller probing into Trump family finances?  

2 minutes ago, do or die said:

Still don't know what Bannon is telling Mueller about certain people within the WH.   Kushner and Trump Jr. are probably not on his Christmas list. 

BTW...whatever happened to the ole "red line" about Mueller probing into Trump family finances?  The new narrative moving forward, could be called "Chinese water torture"

 

Speaking of pardon's isn't this the same President who asked if he could pardon himself. , he pardon  of those guys could be the least of his worries.

He did say his finances were a red line.  But maybe Kushner's are okay lol

As I recall, the idea of Trump pardoning himself is not something that he is forbidden to do.  But even if he were, I'd suspect a Nixon type deal.  Trump resigns and Pence pardons him.  But I think we're a long way off from Trump being criminally charged with anything.

Which begs the question does a innocent man who has done nothing wrong need to be pardoned.

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Which begs the question does a innocent man who has done nothing wrong need to be pardoned.

When you're owning Libs, I guess.

2 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Which begs the question does a innocent man who has done nothing wrong need to be pardoned.

You mean innocent men, don't you?

Just now, do or die said:

You mean innocent men, don't you?

I wonder if he can just attach a family tree to the pardon?

1 minute ago, do or die said:

You mean innocent men, don't you?

This was in terms of Trump himself asking about Pardon's for himself, he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

So, just because Don Trump is a serial lying, self centered, mendacious, raging narcissist.......it somehow means he does not care.  
So cold, man.

6 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Which begs the question does a innocent man who has done nothing wrong need to be pardoned.

The US Supreme Court ruled that accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt but, of course, it's not that easy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/08/26/is-accepting-a-pardon-an-admission-of-guilt/?utm_term=.75678574d69b

5 minutes ago, do or die said:

So, just because Don Trump is a serial lying, self centered, mendacious, raging narcissist.......it somehow means he does not care.  
So cold, man.

Trumps favorite  fall guy Kushners building on 666 5th avenue is a billion dollars in the red, you would think pops could float him a billion, I'm mean he's got it doesn't he.

Edited February 20, 20187 yr by bustamente

You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.......

 

Just now, blue_gold_84 said:

 

Cold hearted monsters and not even dead children will move them to turn away from their NRA masters.

3 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Cold hearted monsters and not even dead children will move them to turn away from their NRA masters.

Dead children don't line their pockets.

Money first.

Well the Russians apparently did funnel millions through the NRA to the Trump campaign so I guess it's just more collusion. 

 

Trump two days ago:

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Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!

Sarah Huckabee Sanders today:

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He was speaking not necessarily that that was the cause.

So glad she has recovered from her momentary hesitation over the Porter thing.   Spin cycle back on.

2 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Well the Russians apparently did funnel millions through the NRA to the Trump campaign so I guess it's just more collusion. 

 

30 Million gets you a whole lot of collusion....

1 minute ago, do or die said:

30 Million gets you a whole lot of collusion....

Just follow the money......

SMH