Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

I’ve been really busy this weekend so haven’t had my eyes and ears glued to the news but I feel like the White House is doing a good job of getting their word out that this is the dems fault. 

It sounds like Schumer conceded the wall but republicans still won’t Agree.  They want DACA off the bill. Because they don’t want DACA. They want those people deported. Period.  Dems should stand their ground on that (they probably won’t). 

17 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

And what does Cheeto 45 do? He blames the Democrats.

That's an incredible demonstration of monumental stupidity.

It’s some twisting to blame dems. They rely on the basic fact that to pass they need some dems to support it. But trump already said he’d sign any bipartisan bill and then changed his mind. Also he’s the one that suspended DACA. He could also extend CHIP but wants it attached to this bill so he can say dems are robbing Americans. But the White House doesn’t want DACA anyway. 

And ofcourse why are they even arguing over funding for the wall when Mexico is going to pay for it lol 

 

Looks like Dems caved

P

EDIT: Perhaps I spoke too soon.  Word is Schumer offered to fund the wall in return for the Dreamers being able to stay.  Which is a great deal since, you know, Mexico is paying for everything lol   Talk is White House wanted Dems to agree to some of their harder line immigration reforms though since the wall is still not a certainty.  I assume that will be the basis for the deal

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Trump deserves a lot of credit for one major accomplishment. Making W popular!

I said many times that history would remember Bush a lot more favourably

Trump deserves a lot of credit for one major accomplishment. Making W popular!

I said many times that history would remember Bush a lot more favourably

this seems like a great idea ...

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

this seems like a great idea ...

For the  USA or for the plethora of lol's that will undoubtedly follow?

On 2018-01-20 at 9:10 PM, blue_gold_84 said:

And what does Cheeto 45 do? He blames the Democrats.

That's an incredible demonstration of monumental stupidity.

Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support? 

1 hour ago, Mark H. said:

Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support? 

Yes, it does. But the image was posted simply to highlight the historic aspect as well as Trump's Twitter history coming back to bite him in the backside.

Anyway, the lights are back on in DC: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/shutdown-talks-us-senate-monday-1.4498038

 

8 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

Damn- getting closer...

14 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Doesn’t a funding bill require 60% support? 

The way I understand it (and im no expert by a long shot), its not that passing the bill requires 60%, but that the Senate can filibuster anything they want and to break a filibuster, you need a super majority.  There are time constraints on debate in the Senate.  So Dems dont like a bill, they filibuster.  GOP wants to break it, they need a super majority.

Or I could be way off.

Buried under the shutdown news last week were reports of Trump engaging in an active affair in the White House. 

 

Ha! Stormy. I see what you did there, Mr. Adler.

1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Ha! Stormy. I see what you did there, Mr. Adler.

She's got major leverage now. Mrs Trump that is.

Stormy has cleverage.

 

Edited January 23, 20188 yr by Mark F

20 minutes ago, Mark F said:

She's got major leverage now. Mrs Trump that is.

Stormy has cleverage.

 

There was a strong rumour that their marriage was over and the deal was she’s play the wife for the campaign. Then he won. 

 

I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities.

6 minutes ago, Mark F said:

I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities.

You mean by Trump specifically?  Cause the special counsel has already laid charges and gotten guilty pleas. 

I would not be surprised if he recommends charges for Trump. Whether he ends up impeached is another story. The charges could be what republicans might deem “minor” though.  I don’t think we’re that close to finding out yet. 

37 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

You mean by Trump specifically?

Yes.

But honestly, I don't know much about it, I'm just very cynical about the U.S. as it is now.

 

51 minutes ago, Mark F said:

I will not be shocked if Mueller says there were improprieties, but no illegalities.

Simply from being mesmerized from this ongoing gong show, how anti-climatic would that be .  Like Geraldo opening the vault and nothing there.

After 68 years of investigation we have found some serious improprieties but nothing illegal.  Blech.

The longer the investigation takes, the worse or better it is for those being investigated? Hard to tell.

 

Wonder who the POTUS will push aside in Davos during the photo op.

12 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Simply from being mesmerized from this ongoing gong show, how anti-climatic would that be .  Like Geraldo opening the vault and nothing there.

After 68 years of investigation we have found some serious improprieties but nothing illegal.  Blech.

The longer the investigation takes, the worse or better it is for those being investigated? Hard to tell.

 

Based on what everyone said about Mueller, the *appearance* is that his investigation is being done well.  He's certainly interviewed people close to the president and flipped a couple of people that would know things.  If there are any bombshells, one scenario would be charges for someone like Kushner, Don Jr etc, who Trump would then pardon.  And recommended charges against Trump...leading to articles of impeachment which the GOP controlled congress would not proceed on.  So everyone would know Trump is a crook but nothing happens.

13 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Simply from being mesmerized from this ongoing gong show, how anti-climatic would that be .  Like Geraldo opening the vault and nothing there.

After 68 years of investigation we have found some serious improprieties but nothing illegal.  Blech.

The longer the investigation takes, the worse or better it is for those being investigated? Hard to tell.

 

This is a criminal investigation. They have indicted  people and done quite a comprehensive review.

The only people that think this should be wrapped up by now are those that don't understand how long it takes to build such an enormous case and those politically motivated to want a quick resolution.