Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

56 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

The Bernie Sanders drinking game - every time he promises another government freebie, drink someone else's beer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a different note, this ALWAYS makes me smile, and then cry a little inside.

 

Edited February 10, 20178 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

this should make trump lose his mind 

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 0:32 AM, Jacquie said:

They are the smart ones.

I've got a lot of relatives living in the US.  They're pretty smart too.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

this should make trump lose his mind 

It's negative... therefore it's fake news... should be easy enough to spin...

7 minutes ago, bearpants said:

It's negative... therefore it's fake news... should be easy enough to spin...

Or something like this:

 

 

This looks like it's going to get a lot of use. *bookmarked*

Edited February 10, 20178 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

5 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Or something like this:

 

 

This looks like it's going to get a lot of use. *bookmarked*

that didn't take long!

1 minute ago, bearpants said:

that didn't take long!

 Yeah, it looks like some kid from Winnipeg tweeted that garbage!

Check out the Japanese leader letting it be known that he thinks Trump is a joke 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/index.html

 

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US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier

Washington (CNN)For the first time, US investigators say they have corroborated some of the communications detailed in a 35-page dossier compiled by a former British intelligence agent, multiple current and former US law enforcement and intelligence officials tell CNN. As CNN first reported, then-President-elect Donald Trump and President Barack Obama were briefed on the existence of the dossier prior to Trump's inauguration.

None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.

But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.

The corroboration, based on intercepted communications, has given US intelligence and law enforcement "greater confidence" in the credibility of some aspects of the dossier as they continue to actively investigate its contents, these sources say.

 

I predict, we will see something like this in short order:

 

I love Spicers response to that CNN story. What's that expression about protesting too much?  Every day this admin becomes more of a joke. 

This administration seems rather confused.  

Then again, pretty tough for them to keep track of which particular lies to defend, on any given day.

 

 

Americans probably not happy with this. This occurred during periods where both parties had a turn in power. Which makes no difference.

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in the U.S., between 1978 and 2015, the income share of the bottom 50% fell to 12% from 20%. Total real income for that group fell 1% during that time period.

That’s not the case elsewhere. In China — where there also has been a marked rise in income inequality — the bottom 50% saw their income go up by 401%, not surprising given the industrialization the world’s second-largest economy has seen. Even in developed France, however, the bottom 50% saw their income grow, by 39%

 

 

 

Anyone with "big plans" in the U.S. better scurry across the border soon, as it looks like we're next in line for a border wall.

Well worth watching just to see the reporter lose control of her eye-movement starting around the 2:00 mark, it looks like they are desperately seeking to escape from her head.  A tad distracting.

Edited February 11, 20178 yr by Throw Long Bannatyne

Terrorism

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Consider, for instance, that since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Americans have been no more likely to die at the hands of terrorists than being crushed to death by unstable televisions and furniture.

 

It's a huge gift to the military industrial spy complex, financially well worth spinning on and on forever.

The Stasi would envy the surveillance powers/data gathering on Americans carried out by their own gubmint. 

oh scary scary terrorists! I can't find Iraq on the map, never heard of Yemen, but who cares, please spend more on military to make us safe!  From those A-rabs, or Putin, or the Chinese!!!!!  (But we love love love Saudi Arabia!)

anyway,  What's Beyonce doing today?

 

complete and utter scam.

 

Edited February 11, 20178 yr by Mark F

Just like some of those same parties, cashed in, under the Bushs

27 minutes ago, do or die said:

Just like some of those same parties, cashed in, under the Bushs

like this for instance?
 

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In July 2008, the United States Department of Justice investigated around 900 cases of alleged fraud committed by contractors. Similarly, the Defense Contract Audit Agency uncovered $10 billion in questionable Iraq contracts,[1] and a US audit found that the occupation authority had lost track of reconstruction funds totalling nearly $9 billion.

Henry Waxman, then Chairman of the United States House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said, "The money that's gone into waste, fraud and abuse under these contracts is just so outrageous, it's egregious. It may well turn out to be the largest war profiteering in history."

 

 

"Lost track of nine billion dollars"

my absolute all time favourite is the

Twelve billions dollars cash, U.S. dollars, paid for by the people of the United states, delivered on pallets, that "went missing" in Iraq.

somewhere somebody must have a ten million dollar yacht named "thankyou Iraq war"

Another fav, the Americans were simply unable to install metres on the oil pipelines in Iraq, so there was no record of how much was pumped, or where it went. for years. LOL!

 

Terrists! scary! ooga booga!

Edited February 11, 20178 yr by Mark F

 

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Edited February 12, 20178 yr by Mark F

 

On 2/11/2017 at 9:34 AM, Mark F said:

Terrorism

 

It's a huge gift to the military industrial spy complex, financially well worth spinning on and on forever.

The Stasi would envy the surveillance powers/data gathering on Americans carried out by their own gubmint. 

oh scary scary terrorists! I can't find Iraq on the map, never heard of Yemen, but who cares, please spend more on military to make us safe!  From those A-rabs, or Putin, or the Chinese!!!!!  (But we love love love Saudi Arabia!)

anyway,  What's Beyonce doing today?

 

complete and utter scam.

 

This is nothing new, it's been going on since the beginnings of government, it's just the way it is and there's nothing any person or party can do to change it.   There will be another big war, eventually the American Empire will collapse and the cards will be reshuffled so that they can do it all over again.....but it will end up the same.  Call me a pessimist if you like but I believe I'm a realist.

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Throw Long Bannatyne

Here's an interesting opinion piece by John Schindler (who "is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee") about US intelligence agencies not trusting Trump's administration on the Observer website:

http://observer.com/2017/02/donald-trump-administration-mike-flynn-russian-embassy/

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Jacquie

On 2/11/2017 at 10:40 AM, Mark F said:

like this for instance?
 

 

"Lost track of nine billion dollars"

my absolute all time favourite is the

Twelve billions dollars cash, U.S. dollars, paid for by the people of the United states, delivered on pallets, that "went missing" in Iraq.

somewhere somebody must have a ten million dollar yacht named "thankyou Iraq war"

Another fav, the Americans were simply unable to install metres on the oil pipelines in Iraq, so there was no record of how much was pumped, or where it went. for years. LOL!

 

Terrists! scary! ooga booga!

Watch the movie Dogs of War and you'll see where some of that money on pallets went.

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by Throw Long Bannatyne

 

Im curious as to the cost and effort to secure Mar-a-lago so that it can continue to operate as a country club and have Trump there whenever he feels like it.  it must be a massive task for Secret Service.