Jesse

Are those real people?

We say Fort Hew around these parts

It is two seperate negotiation points, three even. 1. Hard increases to cap 2. Extra pot of money reserved for community appearances (previously done for free) 3. Revenue sharing (when revenues exceed a certain point - the cap is increased by that amount over and above the guarenteed amount). Whether you agree it's the player's business or not, the definition of revenue, the agreed upon exceedance point, and how it will be applied to the cap - need to be very clearly defined in the CBA.

CFL is offering the players a 1.8% raise/year. If they can promise me seat/concession/merch prices wont increase by more than that number each season, I'll be more than happy to support them.

Individual teams aren't negotiating here. The only relevant information is the league as a whole. And yes, the covid years sucked for all, but we're looking at the next 7 years, not the past two. Revenue sharing is on the negotiating table and is literally, 100% the players business. Again, I don't think they need to address it from the perspective of individual teams, but the the leagues net revenue, expenses, and profit, absolutely.

I think it's more that they're not 'opening the books' and showing what the revenue is. I'm sure agreements can be made about what is in and out of bounds, but you need to have an idea of the total pot to come to that understanding. The CFL as a whole makes money. Covid years aside - and the deal on the table doesn't include any increases for this current year as a result of that - what losses are you referring to?

Damaging for the league, too. They should be getting into the news, people seeing training camp reports, advertising tickets, etc...etc...

I'm not sure I get your reasoning... why would they ever show up for preseason if they could just hold out then? Why does the letter matter?

They're just being professionals. Has no impact on negotiations.

I feel way more offended at Wade Miller. Definitely lost some respect.

He's just a figurehead. He's not negotiating this contract. If you need to send your hate to one person, sure it's his job to take it - but none of this is coming from him.

Not an Ambrosie fan but this has nothing to do with him.

Why are owners refusing an auditor? If there isn’t transparency during negotiations, I wouldn’t sign a deal either.

PA still wants a deal done. They'll come back at the first opportunity. Both sides are negotiating through the public - how each is doing it is just arguing semantics - the result is the same.

I disagree. I don't believe for a second the memo "eventually leaked". They put the offer on socials to exert some public pressure and now the league is doing the same thing, imo.

I'm 100% with the players, but the league didn't do anything that the players haven't already done RE: leaking to social media.

There wouldn't be a point if the player can't take the place of a starter.

They’re all ass.

I feel like Ploen called it the wing t in interviews. But thanks for the info. I have seen the tiniest of video clips from the era.

I was just baout to say, with such a veteran team, what percentage of these guys practicing today make the roster? How much resources should media commit to early cuts?

And I believe Ed Tait is on WST today, so for that should be a good listen.

Darrin Bauming tweeted the same, so perhaps he is covering TC. Draft picks going down like flies.

I feel - don't know - that it was more pitches to guys running outside than a hand off striaght down the middle.

It worked!

https://twitter.com/DTonSC/status/1525122098737422338?s=20&t=MhaYB3fIzwO7_dZp8pQ6rg I don't know why the imbedded tweets don't work for me.