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Brohm has been at the helm for about 140 minutes of regular season play already, that's more than the equivalent of two full games. In that time, he's thrown 5 interceptions, 0 TDs, and has lost a fumble, with an abysmal passer rating of 53.8. Meanwhile, Marve has not committed a single turnover in 53 minutes of regular season play, and has shown to be capable of moving the ball effectively. The job of a backup is to be able to step up in relief of an injured or underperforming QB, so what's the use in having a QB who can't do his job?? Might as well play Davis if Marve is injured. Brohm has not once earned the primary backup position, going all the way back to last year's training camp when he was pretty much neck-and-neck with Max Hall. I have a difficult time thinking about his position on this team as anything but a classic case of cronyism.

So the loss is on Brohm? Get real. Willy has yet to score a TD vs Esks in three starts. You're not wrong about what Willy has done against Edmonton, but what do two previous games have to do with Saturday? You sure have a strange desire to go out of your way to hate on Drew Willy. I don't get why folks are blaming Brohm for the loss. That makes no sense. Willy's numbers were hardly any better through 2/3 of the game. Willy was like 7 for 17 and 81 yards. Every time Willy loses it seems like he can do no wrong. He's always aabove criticism. I don't hate Drew Willy. I'd like to see him do well. But we've given him every opportunity through more than 20 games ... and maybe it's time to admit he's just not the second coming everyone thinks he is. I agree with the premise that Willy is slightly overrated, but Brohm was absolutely one of, if not THE main reason for that loss. The score was 4-3 when he got into the game, at which point he put the team into a huge hole by throwing two interceptions. He had a yards-per-attempt of only 3.7 to Willy's 4.8 despite playing in better conditions. Willy at least kept the team in the game by virtue of committing zero turnovers.

Maybe so, but at the same time... We don't quite know what we have in Marve and Davis. If we had Franklin, it's probable that O'Shea would have Brohm ahead of him on the depth chart anyway.

He's not getting it done and the other guy has gotten it done, isn't that the entire basis of your Marve vs. Brohm support? Why the different opinion here? Stoudemire might have been great last year, but this year he's been useless and actually a detriment to the team whereas Veltung has been good. 2 chances is plenty in my opinion, when the CFL is as tight as it is you can't piss away games letting guys figure it out. Veltung has just been alright. He has gotten the job done but hasn't proven to be a gamebreaker, like Stoudermire was capable of last year. If Stoudermire can get back to last year's form, I think he's our best option. That's why I'm willing to give him another shot. If he falters again, I suppose he deserves to be sat until Veltung proves to be ineffective. Brohm is a 30-year old QB who does not belong on professional football field. What's the use in dressing a QB who can't throw nor run the ball? I don't see how the two situations are similar at all.

Stoudermire was among the best returners in the league last year. I'm willing to give him another game.

Even Jason Vega feels bad for Marve Jason Vega ‏@VegaJason 17 hil y a 17 heuresToronto, OntarioVoir la traduction Someone pay Marve's ransom. That's gotta be it right?

True, Boltus is probably worse. Dinwiddie at least had a few decent games.

Brohm may very well be the worst QB I've ever seen in a Bombers uniform.

Man I have seen way too much of Brohm at this point. Guy is awful. Marve has been able to move the ball in all of his appearances so far... It's time to see what he can do as the primary backup.

Yeah but "Swaggerville" isn't entirely to blame. If they fed off that energy and felt that they maintained a high level of confidence because of it, I say let them be.

Ok, when they award the "damn near won the Grey Cup" Cup then swagger away, but somehow, I don't think that's going to happen Again, I don't see how it hindered their play on the field. If anything they probably fed off that energy. I have never understood why people had a problem with Swaggerville.

Well they damn near won the Grey Cup... It's not like it hindered their play on the field. That defence was awesome and kept us in a lot of games for a couple of years.

I wasn't sure if they did review or not which is why I asked. If they did how is this not conclusive enough that it didn't cross? If this is the only angle they had and this is what they are basing their judgment on then it's pretty clear it DID NOT cross. I say they need to mount go pros to those little orange pylons used to mark the goal line from now on How can you be so sure? Based on the angles we saw, I'd say that there is a strong possibility that at least the tip of the ball broke the plane. As others have said, I don't think that there was conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the field.

Last night's game was one of the most exciting games I've ever seen. And after having to endure last year's snoozefests, this year's games have come as a bit of a relief in my opinion. Regarding your point about rookie QB's, I think the only surprise is Trevor Harris considering he's been overlooked these last couple years and came from a Division II school. Rakeem Cato was outstanding in college. Really, the only reason he never got more attention is because of his size. Neither Crompton nor Bridge fared well in his place.

Well, two-point converts are much more exciting than field goals as far as I'm concerned. There's also a little more strategy involved now which I don't mind.

The fact that his ceiling is a bad version of Kevin Glenn is all i need to know. The real Kevin Glenn isn't overly impressive. Not to mention Glenn throws the ball well on most nights. He is one of my favourite passers to watch in the entire league, just due to his technique. Brohm uses terrible mechanics to produce awful results.

The thing is Marve should have been (and should be from here on in) the second-stringer in the first place. There is not one thing that Brohm has done to merit the backup position.

I'm sure most people would prefer to see Marve.

Quick release? His release is slowwwww. He makes quick reads, sure but that's partly because he can never escape pressure and is unable to buy time with his feet.

Brohm is just so awful that it's completely pointless to have him take reps. He has no future in this league and does not give the Bombers a chance to win. Marve, on the other hand, could really stand to gain some experience. Marve may have some things to learn but even then, he is much more effective than Brohm. We better get him some reps and find out what we have in him, otherwise he might leave us at the end of the year and prove to be a solid contributor for another CFL team.

Isn't that the second time in his short career that I've seen that exact same thing happen? For some reason I feel like I saw that happen to him last year as well. I may be mistaken. Nope it was definitely the first time that has happened. He has not once committed a turnover, or even fumbled the ball in any of his reps. Meanwhile, Brohm has thrown three interceptions and has lost one fumble, plus at least one more that was wiped out by penalty in his regular season reps alone.

Lol I might agree with you but that looked like a fluke more than anything. I don't know about you but I could only laugh when that happened. And as has already been said, that was Marve's first "turnover" in all of his preseason + regular season reps so far. He has proven to be a very "safe" QB for the Bombers. To look at that one play and conclude that he is "nowhere near ready" is foolish. All I know is that he's more ready than Brohm ever was, is and ever will be.

I just don't understand what anyone can possibly see in Brohm. The guy can't throw nor run. I want the Bombers to win first and foremost, amd Brohm does not give the Bombers a chance to win. He's been outplayed by Marve in both of his training camps so far, he's looked awful in practice from my viewings, and has not impressed in game situations. I can't help but think of his position with the Bombers as anything but a classic case of nepotism. And who knows what Marve could have done in Brohm's place yesterday? It is unlikely that he'd have thrown two pick-6's, thus eliminating 14 or 15 Ticats points from the board. It is also likely that Marve would have been more successful in sustaining drives and thus keeping the Hamilton offence off the field. This might also have inspired the defence to play a little better... It is improbable that Marve would won the game, but nonetheless, I'm quite confident that he'd have given us a better chance than Brohm.

Yeah if Marve fails to move the ball and gets his ass kicked I'll most certainly ask that they insert Davis at QB eventually. But with Brohm being as awful as he is, what's the harm in seeing what Marve can do with more reps? At least Marve appears to have some potential.

I don't see what you see... Brohm too often makes bad decisions. He'd rather throw an interception than throw the ball into the stands. He also lacks mobility, which prevents him from being able to buy time or avoid sacks. Brohm didn't even deserve the backup job after last year's training camp. He was badly outplayed by Marve, just as he was in this year's training camp. Unfortunately for Bombers fans, it seems that character is more important to the coaching staff than ability.