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Can't believe Marve is being discussed in the "Potential cuts" thread. There's no chance the guy gets the axe, absolutely none... Especially not by Monday.

I highly doubt it. He's shown enough potential that he's certainly worth keeping around.

This was posted on TEP... Don't know where else to put it. Darrin Bauming@DarrinBauming Robert Marve just told me he wants to make it clear he wants to remain in the CFL and in Winnipeg. He doesn't have NFL aspirations next year Ed Tait ‏@WFPEdTait Interesting. Was apparently off an extension in Dec and turned it down. Club told by his agent he wanted to try NFL. I suppose he realized he wouldn't have much of a chance in the NFL and changed his mind.

He threw a touchdown against Calgary in last year's preseason, but was awful as can be in his first preseason game. I agree with you though, Brohm struggles to move the offense more often than not. As unimpressive as Marve's passing stats from Tuesday were, he still proved to be a more efficient QB than Brohm and Portis, as he gained an average of 6.9 yards on plays in which he was involved. I also think a part of Marve's ability to put up points has to do with the fact that he's proven to be a very "safe" QB so far. He's only been sacked twice in all of his reg season + preseason reps and has not committed one turnover (fumble or interception). As a result, his offence barely ever loses yardage and the ball is never taken away in scoring areas. Brohm moved the ball quite well in his start at home last year until he injured his hand. Yeah, his 6.7 yards-per-play wasn't too bad (identical to Marve's in that game). But then again, the only time he came close to scoring a touchdown, he fumbled in the red zone.

He threw a touchdown against Calgary in last year's preseason, but was awful as can be in his first preseason game. I agree with you though, Brohm struggles to move the offense more often than not. As unimpressive as Marve's passing stats from Tuesday were, he still proved to be a more efficient QB than Brohm and Portis, as he gained an average of 6.9 yards on plays in which he was involved and scored 14 points in the process. I also think a part of Marve's ability to put up points has to do with the fact that he's proven to be a very "safe" QB so far. He's only been sacked twice in all of his reg season + preseason reps and has not committed one turnover (fumble or interception). As a result, his offence barely ever loses yardage and the ball is never taken away in scoring areas.

If it was up to me I'd have Marve as the backup, and one of Brohm or Portis as #3. Not sure who's better between those two.

Yeah he was better than Willy against Edmonton when the game was already out of hand, but that's not saying much. The offence still struggled to put points on the board. Brohm thew 0 TDs and 1 interception. His yards-per-attempt was only of 6.6, which is simply not good enough. I'm sorry but I don't see much of anything in Brohm except a strong arm.

Brohm must have an attractive personality. I'm pretty sure Bellefeuille's history with Brohm goes a few years back. Woudn't be surprised if there was a bit of a bromance there. Also, the team probably doesn't want to look stupid for trading an asset to acquire him.

His stats were far from impressive. He had one decent game against Calgary, but even then the offence only managed to score 9 points under his lead. He had that one long completion to Denmark and followed it up with a fumble in the red zone. He was no good in the preseason either. To be honest, I have no idea what his stats were in his games last year, I just recall from watching him that he moved the ball pretty efficiently and made good decisions. I'm thinking of his start at home where he ended up breaking his hand. He looked good that game. Yep that's the game I was talking about. The offence produced 9 points in the 37 minutes he played, while Marve's offence produced 14 (should have been 17) points. Brohm also committed a back breaking fumble in the red zone immediately after the flea flicker to Denmark.

His stats were far from impressive. He had one decent game against Calgary, but even then the offence only managed to score 9 points under his lead. He had that one long completion to Denmark and followed it up with a fumble in the red zone. He was no good in the preseason either.

Marve hasn't shown an inability to be a passer either. His tools are impressive enough that no one should write him off after less than a full game's worth of experience. But even then, the results he's had so far at this level have been great, regardless of his style of play.

Except for his knees maybe, which is a legitimate concern.

That's ridiculous considering the way he played last year and so far in TC. If anything, Brohm should be the odd man out, or relegated to third or fourth stringer duty. He's completely immobile and lacks accuracy. There's nothing about him that's attractive except a strong arm. I obviously don't share the same confidence in how well Marve reads defences as you do, or how good he's looked in TC...in training camp.This is why he has to show progress in any chance he gets in pre-season games. Listen, I like the way Marve ad-libbed his way through his playing time last year, but I don't want my QBs to always be scrambling to make plays if he's missed his reads. Marve wants to leave next year, and if Portis and Yantz show well in their time, it wouldn't bother me to see Marve leave earlier. It's not so much confidence in Marve's abilities as it is intrigue... Though I am pretty confident of his superiority over Brohm. He showed very well last year in limited reps despite some difficult playing conditions. Take a look at how the Bombers starters played in Marve's two appearances. It's a little unfair to accuse him of "missing his reads" when he simply extended plays with his legs and generated a lot more offence than his counterparts could.

That's ridiculous considering the way he played last year and so far in TC. If anything, Brohm should be the odd man out, or relegated to third or fourth stringer duty. He's completely immobile and lacks accuracy. There's nothing about him that's attractive except a strong arm.

Brohm must have a really great personality because I don't see how else he could have endeared himself to the coaching staff as much as he has.

So we all agree that Marve needs more time to be properly evaluated. Excellent! I still think he may have more potential than Willy based on his athletic ability and the little he's shown so far.

Also, Marve scrambled so much because he HAD to, as the o-line ****ing sucked... At least he didn't just stand there, take hits and make ill-advised passes under pressure like Willy seemed content in doing in the latter half of last year. Marve actually managed to throw the ball away a couple of times, escape pressure, make something out of nothing, etc. I would agree that he still needs to prove himself as a pocket passer, but I don't think he's gotten the chance to do so at this point. I don't think there's anything wrong in suggesting that Marve may have more potential than Willy.

What? Did you watch practice or preseason at all last season? All I hear about Marve is how well the guy can throw. Marve was the Bombers' best QB in training camp, and maybe even in practice, last season and was very good with limited reps in the regular season. The offence performed incredibly well with Marve at the helm, considering the circumstances (down by 16 against the best team in the league in the first game, awful weather in the second one). They scored 29 points (should've been 36) in the 53 minutes that he played. He was only sacked once during that time, did not throw an interception nor fumble the ball... He basically did everything necessary to win games. Marve has excellent potential, and frankly, I think it's stupid to suggest he might not stay on the roster. I agree that Marve has a lot of upside and possibly could be better than WIlly in the future. I don't think JBR was disputing that, nor do I see anywhere that he thinks he will be cut. However, there is more to throwing than just arm strength. Last year Marve did not show the ability to recognize certain coverages and did not get the ball out in a timely fashion. While this made for some tremendous excitement when he scrambled, these were broken plays. Until Marve learns to read coverages, can take a 3-5 step drop and deliver the ball he will not be surpassing anyone on the DC. Marve looked decent last year in limited playing time. A quick look at his stats will show that he was far from incredible. I get it...you're stoked about what could be a good young QB, however, I think you are overstating things right now concerning Marve. Again, considering the circumstances he played in, it' s hard to draw conclusions from his stats. He played the last 23 minutes of the first game against Calgary, engineered two touchdowns plus another drive that should have resulted in a field goal. He was put in a difficult situation with a minute left as the Bombers were in a 10-point deficit and in a hurry to throw the ball downfield. Three of his ten throws were made then. You just can't draw conclusions from 10 pass attempts, as he likely would've completed a higher percentage had he played the entire game. He didn't struggle in his second game either considering the weather conditions. The offence managed to score 15 points in one half of football under his lead. Marve was on pace for more passing yards than Mitchell (despite Mitchell dealing with relatively decent weather in the first half). Marve in 53 minutes = 29 points for the Bombers (should' ve been 36) Other quarterbacks against the same opposition in 67 minutes = 12 points for the Bombers

What? Did you watch practice or preseason at all last season? All I hear about Marve is how well the guy can throw. Marve was the Bombers' best QB in training camp, and maybe even in practice, last season and was very good with limited reps in the regular season. The offence performed incredibly well with Marve at the helm, considering the circumstances (down by 16 against the best team in the league in the first game, awful weather in the second one). They scored 29 points (should've been 36) in the 53 minutes that he played. He was only sacked once during that time, did not throw an interception nor fumble the ball... He basically did everything necessary to win games. Marve has excellent potential, and frankly, I think it's stupid to suggest he might not stay on the roster.

Who's anti-Willy? I just think that Marve has the potential to be better than him... And that's not really far-fetched.

Irving asked him if he liked the moves made in the offseason. Turner (with a huge smile on his face): "Some of the moves I like... Jason Vega... It would've been better to see him around." You can just tell those two are bros.

Not surprised about Marve. I think he might have more potential than Willy (not that I think he'll get the chance prove it necessarily).

Bryant Turner sounds like a great guy. I like his honesty regarding Vega's departure haha.

Just came across this article from the Journal de Montreal... So much for treating this guy like any other football player... Marc de Foy is an idiot. He writes: "I'm excited to put my equipment on and hit someone," says Sam. You have to admit that it sounds funny coming from the mouth of a homosexual.

Wow, if I knew this forum contained so much ignorance before, I would've defended 17to85 to no end on the topic of Dallas Eakins. Seriously, the opinion of Dallas Eakins expressed by 17to85 is pretty much unanimous throughout the Oilers fanbase. Eakins was unarguably one of the worst NHL coaches of all-time. No coach would have gotten the Oilers in a playoff spot during his tenure, but he made the team a lot worse than it should have been nevertheless.