Goalie

And you are ignoring the bigger fact.. and that is, The team doesn't score enough goals to win. Jesus man, the guy is giving up less than 2 goals per game in the NHL.. On most teams, you win every one of those games unless you run in to some goalie who is playing out of his mind that night, Which pavelec has done pretty much the entire season. End of the year? Sure, but if the team can't score more than 1.5 goals per game, it's really irrelevant. You blame him for one bad goal, but the team couldn't score 1 goal of their own. How do you ignore that?

Interesting, sacrificial lamb for a team who had no receivers and for a team who over paid for a QB that is somewhat on the decline. Bomber Interest? I'd suspect slim to none.

Let's break it down.. simple and easy style Jets have played 16 games They are 8-6-2 They have Scored 30 goals in those 16 games, 32 goals = 2 goals per game. They won their opener 6-2.. so in the 15 games since then, they have scored 24 goals 24/15 = about 1.5 if that goals per game. Basically, if Pav doesn't get a shut-out, the Jets don't win. Pavelec himself, started 14 games but has played in 15... In those 15 games, he has given up you ready for this? 29 goals. Less than 2 goals per game. His GAA (1.99) and save percentage (9.28) is top 10 in the league.. But his record is 7-5-2. Crazy that the guy on average gives up 2 or less goals per game, yet the team in front of him can only score 1.5 This blaming Pavelec stuff people do every game, or after every loss is ridiculous, He's giving up less than 2 goals per game.. What more do you want him to do? Get a shut-out every night? Cuz that's realistic for sure. What might have been? What is likely to have happened since it is what happened is the Jets lose 2-0 instead of 3-0, The empty netter still would have happened and the Jets still wouldn't have scored.

That's ok...I don't really like someone not admitting that the 2nd goal was a bad one...watch again...him trying to do a slow shuffle across the crease. That goal was a killer despite the fact the Jets were snakebit. Who knows? That goal doesn't go in and maybe they do score. We'll never know. The team didn't score 1 goal tho, yeah it was a bad goal but it doesn't matter because if that goal didn't happen, it would have ended 1 or 2-0 anyway, because they scored an empty netter, when the team in front of you can't score 1 goal, does it really matter if the 2nd goal you give up is a weak one? Why does it matter, Jets can't score. Doen't matter if he gives up a bad goal, every goalie does, 1-0, 2-0,3-0, The one constant is the 0 there for the Jets. Sure it matters...always matters in one way or another when a goalie gives up a bad goal. That's ok...I don't really like someone not admitting that the 2nd goal was a bad one...watch again...him trying to do a slow shuffle across the crease. That goal was a killer despite the fact the Jets were snakebit. Who knows? That goal doesn't go in and maybe they do score. We'll never know. The team didn't score 1 goal tho, yeah it was a bad goal but it doesn't matter because if that goal didn't happen, it would have ended 1 or 2-0 anyway, because they scored an empty netter, when the team in front of you can't score 1 goal, does it really matter if the 2nd goal you give up is a weak one? Why does it matter, Jets can't score. Doen't matter if he gives up a bad goal, every goalie does, 1-0, 2-0,3-0, The one constant is the 0 there for the Jets. Sure it matters...always matters in one way or another when a goalie gives up a bad goal. When the team can't score a goal and you are expecting your goalie to give up 1 or less goals a game, hell even 2 or less, this is the NHL, you aren't going to win. Seriously, your one post is going on about a bad goal in a game where the team in front of him didn't score any. How do you ignore the fact that the team didn't score, It's irrelevant if he let in a "bad goal", Cuz the Jets themselves didn't score any. I don't get this here, blaming a goalie for a bad goal? Ok it wasn't a great goal but it's irrelevant when the team in front of you can't score 1 goal even. It's not like the Jets have been winning games because they have been lighting the lamp, they have been winning games cuz they score 1 goal and Pav saves their asses and then wins it in a shoot-out or OT. I'd be with you but.. fact is this team is average less than 2 goals scored per game, you take away that 6 goal season opening performance and it's actually under 2 goals scored per game, how do you expect to win when you are expecting your goalie to get a shut-out every night?

That's ok...I don't really like someone not admitting that the 2nd goal was a bad one...watch again...him trying to do a slow shuffle across the crease. That goal was a killer despite the fact the Jets were snakebit. Who knows? That goal doesn't go in and maybe they do score. We'll never know. The team didn't score 1 goal tho, yeah it was a bad goal but it doesn't matter because if that goal didn't happen, it would have ended 1 or 2-0 anyway, because they scored an empty netter, when the team in front of you can't score 1 goal, does it really matter if the 2nd goal you give up is a weak one? Why does it matter, Jets can't score. Doen't matter if he gives up a bad goal, every goalie does, 1-0, 2-0,3-0, The one constant is the 0 there for the Jets.

Whatever i guess. Don't really like it as i was a former goalie myself and really didn't like shoot-outs at all, thought it was pretty unfair to be honest, it's a skills competition, i mean why not just have the hardest shot competition or see what guy can hit the 4 targets in the net the quickest. I dunno, think the reasoning behind it is so it keeps playoff races tighter, i do believe that is the reasoning, winner gets 2, loser gets 1.. Instead of 1 and 1 each.. Something about that tho is the reason for it... Also probably has a lot to do with tv deals and things, i think a continuous OT is great in the playoffs but i'm not sure about it in the regular season. What i would have liked them to do instead of going to the shoot-out after 5, is play an extra 5 or make it 10 minute ot or go 3-3 instead of 4-4. If tied after the 3-3 10 minute period, ok then go to the shoot-out. I'm just happy the shoot-out is only for the regular season cuz i couldn't imagine losing say the stanley cup finals in a skills competition.

Can't blame PAv who played very well and was the only real reason the Jets were in the game, Don't really like cherry picking the goalie for one bad goal when the team in front of him couldn't even score One goal of their own. Jets tho are quite snake bitten right now, could have probably had 5 goals for, just for some reason they are gripping the sticks a little too hard right now. Thought it was a good game, Jets played well actually, just couldn't score. Can't win them all i guess.

Sunday night i believe, they were in montreal a few days a head of time. It was the new recruits initiation stuff, So yeah they partied pretty hard but it was 2 days before the game took place so didn't really effect them too much. People would be quite surprised to hear about all the drinking they actually do, they do it here, they do it on the road, It is what it is.

Trestman has a reputation about getting the best out of his quarterbacks, What's kind of sad is he probably is getting the best out of Cutler. I'm not a huge bears fan but from what i remember, they never have really been very good offensively. They have really built themselves on their defence. This years team and even going back maybe 3 or 4 years now are terrible defensively. Is that on Trestman? It might be because he is the head coach but he's only been there for a couple seasons now. That D started going downhill prior to him getting there, I think it's on the GM, signing guys on the downside of their career, allen comes to mind, is not really doing anything to fix the D. I wish Trestman the best of luck, i really do, he's a good guy and deserves a better fate but i guess when coach killer Cutler is your qb and he was just signed to an extension, well.. what can trestman really do. Trestman might be the coach but it's pretty obvious he doesn't really have full control over there. It's hard to say without knowing exactly what he has to deal with there but... for all we know, he knows what the problems are (On O it's Cutler for sure), On D it's everything really, maybe he's asked the GM to do something but the GM hasn't really done much to help. Hard to say. Was Cutler this bad last year? I didn't think so.. but earlier in the year, it came out that a few current (maybe former) players called out Cutler as not being someone you want to play for, If guys don't want to play for him, or don't think he's good enough, Then there are bigger problems than just trestman in Chicago.

Expansion teams are supposed to suck, i don't think i could name a sport that has had an expansion team who were any good in their first year or even 2 or 3.. that goes for hockey,baseball, football, name it really. Personally i think allowing Ottawa to take 2 QB's wasn't fair to the rest of the league. That right there is more than most other leagues would allow an expansion team to have. Look at the NHL, NFL, NBA even, the most recent expansion teams struggled for years, they weren't any good for a while and some still aren't, Jacksonville Jaguars anyone?? lol Ottawa definitely had their fair share of talent to chose from, but without knowing who was available in the expansion draft and who wasn't, Ottawa could some pretty solid guys out of that and probably could have had a couple more if they weren't so arrogant, why take kohlert when you know he won't sign there, why take HAGE when he said he would retire if he was taken by Ottawa. They could have had 2 extra players there, who? who really knows but fact is... just having the ability to take 2 QB's means that that expansion draft was very fair to them. Besides, when it really comes down to it, who cares, why would anyone want Ottawa to be any better than they are? If there fans expected them to be some sort of powerhouse team their first year, they were kidding themselves cuz like i said, you look at the NHL (tampa bay,san jose) NFL (Jacksonville,Carolina), NBA (the raptors) those teams sucked for a while but over time and through solid drafting and free agency, some of those teams have turned themselves around, Some havent (mainly Jacksonville) but most certainly have but it doesn't happen in one year and it shouldn't.

That was a good road game by the JETS... they deserved the 2 points for sure. The reffing was pretty brutal and while watching i was pretty bored, but not because of the game, but because of the commentary, if randorf and especially galley could have made it any more clear that they were cheering for Ottawa, like c'mon. I've watched all 3 or 4 games they have had on sportsnet and i've been dead bored listening to it. The games haven't been awful but the commentary certainly has been. No respect for the JETS what so ever from Sportsnet. None, 8-5-2. 3rd in the central, probably the toughest division in hockey, 6-0-2 in the last 8 or something like that...But do they even mention that once? NOPE. Jets are actually one of the hottest teams in hockey right now, but do we get any respect? Nope, it's ridiculous actually. and TSN too, man seriously you show the highlights and then you talk to 2 ottawa players after the game and no Jet players? WTF.

Pav was outstanding in the shoot-out and all game. Great road win by the Jets, not their best game but 2 points is 2 points.

Nevermind the BC game, how about those 2 rider games we should have won. or the Hamilton game we lost later in the year. Those 2 rider games are the difference between 7-11 and 9-9 which is a playoff spot. the hamilton game is the difference between finishing 3rd or 4th.

That was one hell of a catch by SJ Green there.

Kilgore was actually the argos 3rd string QB tonight vs the ORBs.

I think I'd like to see Wheeler, he seems to be money in the shoot-out, Scheif and a guy like Perreault would be interesting to see too.

Yeah, watched it for sure then the channel messed up so i changed for a bit, went back and glad i did. What a game really. That TD throw by Demski to Yantz was beautiful.

Probably cuz when Huff played, sites like this didn't exist so people couldn't come on the internet and ***** all the time.

I don't know about that. Something different about Pavelec this year, his positioning and rebound control is much better, that's what has hurt him in the past. If he can keep it up, for some reason, I think he will shut some people up this season. The other thing, I'd like to see Hutch play more than our backups have the last few years, what might hurt pav is he consistently plays lots and lots of games, not sure it's a good thing. Think what drains him is he plays too much and has played too much the last few years cuz obviously they had no confidence in their backups the last couple years. Hopefully Hutch plays about 20 25 games this season, if he does, Pav shouldn't be over worked.

All these guys get paid lots of money, none of them are worth it, not one. That's why i think the amount of money they make shouldn't be a factor. I just find that lots of fans don't really appreciate little that much, but all he does is put up points every year he's been here. Little is almost a PPG player. He's our top scorer right now. most points.

Yeah gotta agree with the post above, Greaves for sure. When he was injured our oline really struggled to replace him. Tells me he's more valuable than some seem to realize. Also have to agree about the snaps getting worse, I dunno maybe it was just me and apparently another person but... Did tend to notice that Morleys snaps really weren't all that sharp at all, Nope Atomic is right, none ever flew over Willys head but i do recall several every game that fluttered back there, at times, it seemed like a guy was in DW's face the second the snap arrived tho. Watching some of the other centers around the league, Have to admit when they snapped the ball back to their QB, those snaps had some mustard on them. Coming in almost spiral like for the most part, with Morley, thought they were more like watching Max Hall pass, wounded ducks.

Not much respect for Trevor Harris it seems, who has looked very good every time he has stepped on to the field, Argos will win this one vs the Redblacks, Harris is no slouch. Highly doubt Campbell would be fired if the ORBs lose, doubt it for sure. If he is tho and I'm the Bombers, I'd strongly consider him for our DC position.

Toughest To Bring Down: Jon Cornish*, RB, Calgary (41%) Biggest Threat To Score: Chad Owens*, WR/KR, Toronto (44%) Most Clutch Performer: Ricky Ray*, QB, Toronto (32%) Most Underrated: Kevin Glenn, QB, BC (10%) Most Accurate Passer: Ricky Ray, QB*, Toronto (71%) Fastest Player: Brandon Banks, WR/KR, Hamilton (31%) Toughest Player: Mike Reilly*, QB, Edmonton (21%) Nastiest Player: Shea Emry, LB, Toronto (24%) Best Trash-Talker: Simoni Lawrence, LB, Hamilton (14%) Hardest Hitter: Soloman Elimimian, LB, BC (32%) Best Hands: S.J. Green*, SB, Montreal (22%) *Repeat winner Montreal Alouettes’ Chad Johnson (@ochocinco) was the winner of this year’s bonus question, earning the title of the CFL’s Best Tweeter with 24% of the votes. Glenn as most under-rated is somewhat surprising, also SJ Green, who i thought hasn't had a very strong season with the ALS might be the other shocker.

You know who was pretty absent during the game last night besides in the shoot-out? Crosby, That is partially on the Little line who were seemingly matched up against Crosbys line all game. Little is a very under-rated player and every game he plays, he's always doing something positive. He doesn't always score but last night he was the guy who set up the opening goal of the game and he also helped shut the Crosby line down too. Little does all the well Little things game in game out. Littles stat line vs the Pens.. 0 goals 1 assist, +1. just about 23 minutes of ice time, 1 shot on goal (little lower for him than normal) 50% face-off percentage. That matched up against the Crosby line. Not too bad at all really.

Kane played well all game, the entire team did, i would have been fine with anyone they put out there as long as it wasn't thorburn or enstrom, who i'm assuming would pass the puck on a shoot-out instead of shooting. Is Wheeler the real captain of this team? I know he doesn't wear the C but... the little things he does out there, definitely see him as a possible future captain. Ladd played well all game too, The entire team did. They lost in a shoot-out to the best team in the league and Honestly, the best team in the league got a bit lucky that they even made it to OT as the Jets had several chances to end it with about 2 minutes or less left in the game. Pens got the puck left with about 20 seconds, enough time for a rush but instead of rushing up ice to try to score, were content on taking it to OT. Jets pushed the pens to the limit tonight.