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2 hours ago, GCn20 said:
I think that anything is better than the Liberal plan, and I really dont know much about the NDP plan because they are Not Destined for Power. TBH, I think no party has a plan that will even remotely work until they commit to spending on and building the infrastructure necessary for green energy.
My problem with the Liberal plan is it penalizes people instead of incentivizing people in order to make the change. Its the wrong approach imo.
Ummm..not really...at least not according to today's poll numbers and the CPC got a big boost with Legaults endorsement today. That is really bad news for the Libs in Quebec where the electorate LOVES Legault.
It really depends how you identify incentives. Sure, the CPC plan gives people all the money back they use on things that destroy the environment. I think that clearly is not a working plan to address climate change. You could see the Liberals plan for a price on carbon providing incentives to live a lower carbon lifestyle. Things will also be more expensive under the CPC plan, that could be considered penalizing. If you really want a plan that doesn't penalize for carbon producing, see the PPC. They're still in the camp that science doesn't agree on human climate change and we shouldn't do anything about it.
Under the CPC plan I continue merrily along my way as normal, there's not really any reason for me to adjust my lifestyle (kind of the point). When I get enough money on my carbon points card I can spend it on... well, they don't really say, but maybe I can buy a new bike or whatever they eventually decide will be a good green item. Yup, that'll fix things. Even the Canadian Taxpayers Federation claims that the CPC plan "isn't a real solution".
Under the Liberal's or most other carbon tax plans, people face daily incentives to live a less environmentally damaging lifestyle. I'm not promoting the Liberal plan, I don't think it goes far enough. But the CPC plan is a joke.
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1 hour ago, Tracker said:
Those who listen to The Rebel are not looking for credible information or points of view. They want to have their views validated, no matter how distorted they are. Essentially, they pay to be told what they want to hear.
I think that's a big part of it. But where do their ideas originate in the first place then? I imagine its a little bit of both.
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Brown used to bother me a lot, but hasn't as much this year. One annoying pet peeve of mine is that he continually responds to questions or comments with the same damn laugh. Maybe only annoying for me, but I shake my head every time I hear it.
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I listened to a rebel podcast last fall or so that was from summer 2020. I wanted to hear first hand what people hear from outside mainstream media. I was surprised to hear how many predictions or claims they made that within a few months were easily confirmed to be false and it made me really wonder how they maintain followers. Do they just forget what they have consumed being obviously false. Or is this how the ultra-wacky conspiracies develop like Covid being a government hoax? People accept what Rebel & Co. say, when presented with credible information that clearly contradicts it, jump off the deep end to preserve their self-esteem by refusing to accept they were wrong?
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8 minutes ago, Mark F said:
we are stumbling, and bumbling into biggest mistake in human history, with full knowledge of how it is happening, and the capacity to stop it. the apathy is astonishing.
the abandoned oil wells are leaking methane at a horrendous rate.
Don't worry, the governments will spend public funds to clean up the mess that companies have left behind😒
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28 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
As the leader goes, so goes the party in an election campaign. The party does not deny man made climate change at all. That is a falsehood. The motion with that line in it was rejected at the convention by membership not because anyone is denying climate change, it was defeated because the proposition called for the party to commit to eliminating big oil and transitioning Canada into a green energy world leader. It was only narrowly defeated. That should tell you how many centrists reside in the CPC party. Yes, the Alberta/SSK faction is still strong within the CPC but it is losing it's grip. When a vote to eliminate big oil gains 46% approval at the convention it proves that this party is becoming increasingly closer to the centre. This country needs an economically responsible centrist government badly so I hope they continue down this path because the Liberals have taken a sharp turn left over the past several years.
So what you're saying is that they agree that climate change is real, but are unwilling to do what is needed to solve it?
The party has a history of strongly rejecting climate science. They rejected a motion that would clearly separate them from their history of denying science.
Real question - do you really think their carbon savings account is a better plan to address climate change than the Liberal or NDP plan?
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8 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:
Fleury fell over the edge years ago and seems to have enjoyed his descent into misinformed idiocy. Just another covidiot loser from the looks of it.
Speaking of which: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-mla-peter-guthrie-covid-unvaccinated-1.6167172
Alberta is a disaster.
The one good thing is that, after years of peddling bullshit and reaping the rewards of blind followers, conservative provincial governments are starting to have to deal with what they have sewn.
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17 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Looks like most people aren't wearing masks. Which one is the new Premier?
Bottom right pic where they are indoors and there's a few seniors around, some masked. She's the one furthest from the camera pretending to care.
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1 minute ago, Tracker said:
The seeds of this kind of intolerance was sowed when the religious-right oriented Reform party merged with the PC party after Brian Mulroney reduced it to a laughingstock and seized power there. The malignancy that rose to the surface under Trump has emboldened the nuts in Canada who had no credibility and were afraid to come out. The tolerance that the new Tory party has shown to those members who voiced support for the right-wing neo-Nazis and their coded messages to those created the natural outcome we heard of today.
Someone on MBB, perhaps you, mentioned how the Trump B.S. would embolden the right wing nuts in Canada. I disagreed. I assumed that would be sufficient warning what would happen here. Shame on me.
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On 2021-09-06 at 3:12 PM, Mark F said:
The greatest threat to global public health is the continued failure of world leaders to keep the global temperature rise below 1.5°C and to restore nature," the journals conclude. "Urgent, society-wide changes must be made and will lead to a fairer and healthier world."
220+ Medical Journals Unite to Demand Urgent Action on Climate Emergency
"The greatest threat to global public health is the continued failure of world leaders to keep the global temperature rise below 1.5°C and to restore nature," warn journals in unprecedented joint editorial.
exxon is winning.
And yet we have a party pushing close to victory by promising to scrap the carbon tax in favour of a carbon savings plan because "everything is getting too expensive". I shudder to think how we will be looked upon in a few generations when it has been clear what is happening, obvious what can be done about it, and still we have halfhearted efforts even in so called "progressive" schools of thought.
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Is it bad that I am more surprised the PPC candidate deleted that post more than I'm surprised he actually posted in the first place?
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2 hours ago, GCn20 said:
Yea..in the West the CPC will lose some % points to the PPC. Luckily for them it will have almost 0 impact on their seat totals. The danger of the PPC to the CPC is what they could do in the East. However, support is west centric for PPC. If Bernier wasn't such a wingnut he could pose problems but he is..and won't get enough votes where it matters to be anything but an annoyance. Quite honestly if i were the CPC i'd be thrilled that the PPC is there to give the very small% of extreme right voters a place to park their support and not tarnish the CPC's hope of moving back towards the centre.
In the demographics that matter such as the 905, GTA, and BC there will be virtually zero support for the PPC. The CPC, in order to gain seats there, must appeal to the centre of the political spectrum because there isn't much support for anything too far right of centre.
Agreed. I don't really see the CPC losing a single seat as a result of the PPC. Even the hard right nutjobs are concerned with straying from the CPC because that will give the election to the communist devil Trudeau. I imagine that will especially effect their votes in ridings where it might be tight between CPC and another party. It will be interesting to see the effect Bernier has on areas that are consistent CPC landslides. It won't take any seats, but the results will be interesting in CPC strongholds like the Manitoba bible belt.
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I listened to the last bit of the Bomber game on CJOB. Bob loved the post hit. Emphatically stating "How's that for a little DAY-JA-VUUU" with a good chuckle after.
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Read all 26 pages of this thread just for the response to Fajardo hitting the post. There needs to be a suitable gif for this. If I knew how to make gifs, I'd totally put both post hits together for one.
Unfortunately now they can blame the loss on hitting the post again.
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33 minutes ago, Tracker said:
A poll released today reports that Trudeau is a more trusted PM than either of his competition. Don't know what that means for the election, though.
I'd like to see information on whether that is a trend with most incumbent PMs. The devil you know...
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1 hour ago, JCon said:
It would be good if the Liberals were more centrist and actually tried to earn the right's vote. But, they operate in the fringes and simply act as an alternative to the NDP. They're not deep and could never functionally form govt.
I agree that they are more of an option for the left than the right. The only way I can imagine some hardcore right voters switching is because voting for the NDP is the same as worshiping Satan and they want to stick it to the PCs for introducing restrictions and vaccine passports. Though Christian Heritage or something would likely swipe the "PCs are too communist" votes.
Not sure what you mean by them not being deep, but I agree that its hard to make any headway when voters only see vote for the Liberals as a vote for the party they really don't want (be that PC or NDP) I'm hoping they make some progress as they were last significantly relevant in the late 80s when they were the official opposition. Doubt much progree will happen next election as NDP and PC are so radically opposite at the moment.
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I've said it before, multiple times, but the Liberals have the best party leader and they are really progressive. We'd be in a much better situation with them leading us through Covid. While they don't have any chance to form the next government, it would be best for Manitoba if they were at least a more serious third party and could hold a balance of power which would keep both PC and NDP in their places and preventing majority victories.
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Hearing of the protests at the hospitals, the craziness of taking dewormer instead of a vaccine, pushing against any effort to control to virus does have me dangerously close to being happy when I hear of the death of a vocal anti-vaxxer. I don't like that.
As a teacher, I try to look at the causes of what is going on and how we can improve as a society in the future. Its a dire situation, but I really think we need to do a better job of explicitly teaching critical thinking at all levels of our educational system. It is already woven into other curricula, but it might require its own course. Perhaps even being elevated to the level of math/literacy.
The world is changing faster than ever before and the rate of change keeps picking up. We need a population that is able to use critical thinking fluidly in a wide variety of situations otherwise we're left with hospitals being overwhelmed with people using dewormer because they read how unsafe a vaccine is.
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6 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Ha, ha. He wasn't wrong. Biggest play of the season & Andrew Buckley the backup QB carried the ball on third down & lost yards. All they had to do was hand the ball off to Jerome Messam from the one & he'd be in. Dumb.
Just like the Seattle Seahawks not giving the ball to Beast Mode Marshawn Lynch on the one & threw an interception on the goal line to lose the Super Bowl. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Coaches get too cute & outsmart themselves.
Agreed, but the way he handled that by throwing his teammate and coach under the bus came off as arrogant and classless. I don't think that kind of behaviour would go over well on our team. And when its from your QB franchise player, it spreads to others. Look at the culture of the Stamps, sure some of that comes from Dickenson too. (It was awesome to see him on the sidelines after they fumbled on the trick play last game)
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26 minutes ago, Noeller said:
I know Henry Siemens... A good man. I have no doubt his eyes rolled very hard at the thought of this idea....
I believe you, but its hard to believe by that quote that it is true. He also public made it aware that he is fully vaccinated. Maybe appealing to both sides by not shutting down the ridiculous idea of a sanctuary city.
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2 hours ago, Tracker said:
I am cynical enough to believe that the Tories introduced what was certain to be unpopular legislation with the knowledge that Pallister was as popular as cooties and would have to leave. That way, the pending premier/party leader could disavow Bill 64 and claim to be listening to the will of the people. Such is politics.
My friend has expressed a similar belief. I don't think some as arrogant and conceited as Pallister would allow himself to be the sacrificial lamb, but its possible.
I think its more likely that they introduced tons of legislation, purposely blocked the public and other parties from seeing it until the last possible minute, knowing they would only be able to hold 5 bills back. The more outrageous the legislation the better as that meant a lot of other garbage would pass while outrage would only be around the 5 bills.
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How do people in the Southern district see that and not see the reason to get vaccinated? More cases than all of Winnipeg and Winkler has a huge anti-mask/vax/restrictions/sanity rally. Even the genius deputy mayor is considering having Winkler become a sanctuary city. I don't get how they can push against the rights of gay people to be in relationships with each other and then hold up their hands and say they are being persecuted with vaccines when they obviously have the choice, but don't want to deal with the consequences of their actions.
One man suggested Winkler become a so-called sanctuary city where people can live in freedom whether they choose to get the vaccine or not.
“We need to put a hedge of protection around this community because the wolves are upon us,” the man said.
Henry Siemens, the city’s deputy mayor, said council is aware of the idea but hasn’t received any official proposals. However, he didn’t rule anything out.
“In broad strokes, a sanctuary city, I wouldn’t have ever seen it used in this manner before,” Siemens said, noting he’s fully vaccinated. “When we get that we’ll have all of council review and determine the best way forward.”
Sidenote: the only time I've seen that many vehicles lined up along the streets in a Mennonite community was during free pancake breakfast (a joke, but also true)
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GDT - LDC Edition - The Champs vs The Riders - 5pm- @ IGF West
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I thought he should get fined for that. Deliberately swearing into a camera. Classless guy, classless group of dbs.