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  1. Covid-19

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    On 2022-02-04 at 1:31 PM, Bigblue204 said:

    I've thought this many many times. Like IF this is the worst my generation has to go through, it's a ******* joke compared to what previous generations had to handle. Like they can't even be compared. Storming Normandy....or wearing a mask? Rationing your food....or ordering out instead of dinning in? Having your manufacturing business under the control of the government to help the war effort....or get a life saving medicine? 

    and I know the comparisons are apples to apples....but if my grandfather had to listen to motherfuckers cry about masks and school closures and comparing it to what he did in the wars...I can't even imagine what he'd say....******* *******.

    Previously in Canada when a member of your household got sick with one of the many epidemics that swept through, a card went up on your door or gatepost. . Each disease had a different colour so people knew what that household had. Only the Doctor was allowed in  or out. This was within my parents time. Our local cemetery started where it is because two neighbors lost kids and decided to bury them together. If you walk through that cemetery there are monuments where you can see that a family would lose 5 or 6 children over a 2 year span. Imagine being alone in your house. Your child gets sick. You have seen it before with the other little ones that have died. The Doctor might come, you would hope,  but down deep you would know they were dieing. Going through that , 5 or 6 times , in a couple of years. Typhoid, diphtheria, scarlet fever, influenza, polio..... This is why there was no discussion when I was a kid about getting a jab. My parents remembered the days  before science and medicine won out over these diseases. 

    And now we protest over wearing a mask and getting a jab .

    Edit : My mother was a nurse in the 1940s .She dealt with alot of polio victims during a bad outbreak including some that required a " iron lung  " to breath. I can't imagine what that tough no nonsense lady would have to say. She would be pretty disgusted by all the silliness. 

  3. Canadian Politics

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    10 hours ago, Mark F said:

    Except in the end, when it looked bad for him, he campaigned on muslim fear mongering,  that he hoped would get him votes for instance in rural quebec. and he was an absolute extremist as far as science, and concern for the planet was concerned.

    never forget how he  shutndown the experimental lakes funding. funny thing.... they just established that fish populations can recover from  mercury pollution in as little as ten years. good news for polluters maybe.

     

    at least he left health care alone.

    Agreed, his environmental record left alot to be desired.

  4. Canadian Politics

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    I find it interesting / odd that the Conservatives have forgotten what should have been their biggest lesson from the Harper years. You need to be pragmatic if you are a Conservative and want to govern Canada. The guy governed for close to 10  years by suppressing the more radical, members of his party. He was ( I think ) a born again Christian who wouldn't allow his members to table an abortion discussion. He was elected in Alberta yet kept the PAL requirement for gun use and ownership.  He recognized the  importance of officially naming 1st Nations as a separate nation within the nation. He may have been despised by the left but he knew how to pull the central vote his way. He knew what he could get away with and what he couldn't and forced his party to comply. I had hoped O Toole  would have this ability but he wasn't even close.  What the PCs are embracing now will keep them out of power. At least I hope it does. 

  5. Covid-19

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    Im was watching the news and They were interviewing  a protestor. A supposed trucker. He said he lost his job and now he  might lose his home. Well idiot, go home and get to work. There is a desperate shortage of truckers right now. That has always been the case and now it's even more so. I remember getting my Class 1 back in the 80s and a friend said  " you realize once you have your class 1 that's all you will get to do right ? "  When I ran equipment I sometimes wouldn't tell employers I had my class 1 or I'd be trucking.

    My point being he made a choice, work  or hang out with the idiots there. On top of that,  I could have him a job today , vaccinated or not and I haven't been in a truck in 4 years. What a load of BS.

  6. Canadian Politics

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    38 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

    Saw a video of from the city councilor for Point Douglas supporting the convoy. One of her main points was that EVERYONE should be able to have a choice when it comes to their body. I'm not sure I understand these people anymore...who doesn't have a choice? Are there literal mobs running around and holding others down to be vaxxed? Am I not aware of military forces holding people in custody until they are vaxxed? What am I missing?

    My brother in laws brother is apparently anti vax. He told my sister that Germany was building camps for the unvaxed. I mean really , how stupid are these people. My sister did remind him that her son lives in Germany and would probably have mentioned that to her.

  7. Canadian Politics

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    31 minutes ago, JCon said:

    They not only want the choice for their own body, which they've ALWAYS had, but they also want to impose their choice on everyone else and put everyone else at risk. The worst people.

    They have latched on to the Pro Choice slogan. There is a couple of minor differences. This 64 year old man will neither get pregnant or have an abortion from close contact.

  8. Canadian Politics

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    A couple of comments from someone who votes conservative occasionally : 

    I view this as political suicide. They are ignoring one huge fact. This country is %85 vaxxxed. That %85 will generally be disgusted by the support many PCs are giving to the idiot convoy. They will be pleasing the part of the nation that votes for them no matter what they do. They will be angering the part ( %85 ) of the nation that they need to convince to vote them into power. I can hear the Liberals giggling from here.

    I often heard people complain that Harper was to controlling. That everything the party did in his time needed to cross his desk and get his stamp of approval. I bet O'Toole wishes he had that kind of control.

    Aside from the afore mentioned political astuteness or lack thereof, I find the reaction of the PC's disgusting. Not only the support of the vocal ones but the deathly silence of the rest.

    The PCs challenge is always to appeal to moderate voters. It's the only way they will ever attain power. What's going on now will set their party back to the days of the Reform Party.

  9. Canadian Politics

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    I'd like to know how many of these people at the " truckers protest " are actually truckers. Even the ones who actually drove trucks.  A good percentage ,maybe half of farms have semis now, or often multiple semis. That doesn't make them truckers. A trucker is someone who makes his living trucking. I have my class 1 and drove trucks both in  construction and farming but I'm not a trucker.

  14. Covid-19

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    19 hours ago, JCon said:

    It's one thing to turn down all medical treatment but to pick and choose certain treatments over "principles"? What sort of cocktail of medicine do you think you need to take for your body to accept a heart? 

     

    Seriously,  my neighbor is a antivaxer and is currently taking cancer treatments. His wife ,also unvaccinated,  has a life-long auto-immune disease and will be on a host of different drugs extending her life.  It leaves me speechless at times.

  15. The RIP 2022 Thread

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    2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    That was 1978 & album sales were massive. 

    No song ever encapsulated raging teenage hormones, promises made in the heat of action and lingering regrets better than " Paradise by the dashboard lights ". More of a one act musical than just a song. 

  16. World Politics

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    I came across this quote today in the Guardian. It was in reference to the Epstein/Maxwell/ Prince Andrew affair but I feel it holds true for Trump, many other Trump style politicians , many of today's  elite rich , .......

    ” Could it be that when you grow up in a tiny bubble of rich, protected, privileged, narcissist- and sociopath-heavy elitists, certain human traits such as empathy, conscience and morality are not as fully nurtured as they might be? Discuss over champagne and little people’s tears.

  17. Covid-19

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    On 2022-01-16 at 11:06 AM, Tracker said:

    ‘GOLDEN NECTAR’ The Alex Jones Pal Behind The Urine-Drinking COVID ‘Cure’


    An infamous anti-vaxxer drew mockery by touting urine as a COVID cure. He got the idea from Infowars’ fave chiropractor, who claims drinking pee can also ward off HIV and cancer.
    Earlier this week, the anti-vax “Vaccine Police” leader Christopher Paul Key, who set out on a road trip seeking to conduct citizen’s arrests of Democratic governors and was arrested for criminal trespass, urged his followers to swear off COVID-19 inoculation and to instead drink their own urine as a cure.

    As it turns out, the anti-vaccine activist got that unscientific medical advice from Dr. Edward Group, a chiropractor who is a pal of Alex Jones, and who sells online coursework for learning the benefits of drinking the “golden nectar.”

    Key said in a video posted on Telegram, a platform favored by the far right, last weekend that the COVID-19 vaccine “is the worst bioweapon I have ever seen.” Instead, he told followers, “The antidote that we have seen now, and we have tons and tons of research, is urine therapy. OK, and I know to a lot of you this sounds crazy, but guys, God’s given us everything we need.”

    He proudly declared: “I drink my own urine!”

    In a subsequent conversation with The Daily Beast, Key identified Group as his guru on drinking piss. The anti-vaccine activist said he spoke with Group after getting out of jail for his trespassing charges, and “he told me that he and his team have been looking over those who have been vaccinated and taken the jab, and they have anecdotal evidence of blood clots totally disappearing from using urine therapy.”

    The Alex Jones Pal Behind the Anti-Vaccine Right’s Urine Drinking COVID ‘Cure’ (thedailybeast.com)

    Group is a Houston-based, self-styled “natural health” expert whose dubious credentials and connection to Alex Jones were explored in a 2017 torching by HBO’s John Oliver. In that segment, Oliver revealed how Group—who reportedly has a chiropractic certification but no undergraduate degrees—frequently appeared in ads touting InfoWars supplements on behalf of Jones, in one clip claiming the far-right conspiracy website’s health products could ward off any number of ailments, including the “mass amount of parasites or harmful organisms” he claimed were carried by refugees.

    All I can picture is a bunch of idiots sitting around a table with a discussion like this :

    Idiot 1 - " We can make these punters do anything we want." 

    Other idiots -  "Well, almost anything."

    Idiot 1 - "Anything ! Watch this , I can make them drink their own piss "

    Everyone laughs

    Honestly we really are better off if Covid culls the herd a bit. Unfortunately many responsible intelligent others suffer as well.

  19. US Politics

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    19 hours ago, Goalie said:

    Soon the US will be no more. 

    Democracy dies soon. 

    Amazing, I'm gonna see the collapse of a legit world superpower in my lifetime 

    Don't forget PET's quote  " living next to the USA is like sleeping with an elephant.  No matter how friendly the beast is , you feel every twitch and grunt "  When the US falls it won't stay as a vacuum. Some new form will replace  it. Both the fall and what replaces it could be rather ugly for Canada.

  21. Covid-19

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    45 minutes ago, WildPath said:

    I have thought similar before - the people most upset with lockdowns should surely be the first in line for vaccinations  and trying to encourage everyone to get vaccinated. Unfortunately this is rarely the case. Those that hate lockdowns and are likely to break lockdown protocol are often the least effected by the negative side effects of lockdowns. Those who take lockdowns seriously and often go beyond government protocol are the ones who most want to go back to normal and will do whatever it takes. Part of their mindset is that they should always be allowed to do whatever they want - don't lock us down, don't make us get vaccinated, don't make have any consequences for our choices.

    I also think those who hate lockdowns are also the "F Turd-eau" crowd that have a really hard time connecting to dots between mass vaccination and a return to normal life.

    The lack of critical thinking really boggles the mind. I had one of my early years students go on a huge rant about anti-vaxxers today. Hard to imagine kids under 10 can put together a more logical argument than some adults...

    The whole anti-vax thing is puzzling . But I think the problem is we try to figure out their logic. We just need to accept there is none. 

  22. Covid-19

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    Good discussion . I've really been pondering on the anti-vax people lately. I actually know alot of them.

    One neighbor had fallen into the whole pro-Trump, anti everything, conspiracy crap before Covid so just naturally became anti vax. He seems perfectly okay taking  cancer treatments though. His unvaccinated wife also has a debilitating auto-immune disease.

    I know a bright, ambitious business woman who I believe took a real punch in the gut with a business she had just opened prior to Covid. I suspect initially it was a reaction  to having to shut her doors and having reduced clientele  when she was allowed to reopen. She has a close friend who probably heavily influenced her as well.Just a slow slide down the rabbit hole.

    I know 2 who I just attribute their decision to a lack of intelligence. 

    I know another family that is a really perplexing case. The father is one of the smartest guys I have ever dealt with. His son is a close second. They are incredible business men. Their net worth is hundreds of millions. Their company is on the New York stock exchange. The fathers wife is/ was in hospital with Covid and not doing well the last thing I heard. But they are still anti-vax. I put them down to arrogance.

    On a good note there can be change of hearts. The Hutterite colony beside us has decided to vaccinate. I was glad to hear it as they are really good people . Most of the rest that I mentioned will never change.

  23. Covid-19

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    My wife worked as a healthcare aide for 20 years then retired and started doing homecare a few years ago. She now goes into homes where her clients are unmasked. Lots of times there are unmasked visitors there. Some of them aren't vaxed. She gets medical masks and was issued ONE fitted  N95 just in case they answer yes to the usual quizz. Eye drops are a common need of her clients so there is lots of very close contact. She can have a dozen clients in a shift . How the hell this is being allowed is beyond me.

  24. Covid-19

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    1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

    Manitoba reported 2,383 new COVID-19 infections and 19 deaths on Monday.

    There are 378 Manitobans in hospital with COVID-19, 39 of them in intensive care. The test positivity rate provincewide is 49 per cent.

    Based on provincial data, public health officials are highlighting the following trends for the week ending Jan. 6:

    An average of 1,814.7 new cases per day.

    A total of 201 new hospitalizations, a 51.1 per cent increase from the previous week.

    A total of 20 new intensive care cases, a 5.3 per cent increase from the previous week.

    A total of 12,703 cases, a 6.9 per cent increase from the previous week.

    Stunning numbers . Eventually I think we all get it. I don't know if its avoidable. Hopefully we can string it out enough that if we need hospitalization there will be room. 

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