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So we're at the point where freisen is the trusted voice?

Far far too many people sadly

Well if it's on social media.......

Well personally I'm hoping for lots of streveler to help carry the load. Though I hoped for that last season and we didn't get it then either.

The time to be bold was last offseason and ship collaros to Ottawa and committed to Dru Brown. At worst their level of play was similar in 2023 (i believe Brown was actually better). Sadly they stuck with the old guy because they weren't interested in the short term risk for long term gain.

He got outplayed by nick arbuckle and Cody fajardo... mcleod bethel Thompson too... why we making excuses for the highest paid qb in the league over that period? You wanna be paid like the best you don't get outplayed by the likes of them.

When you pay your qb that much your depth and star power takes a hit... so you don't get the benefit of excuses. That's why myself and many others said ditch collaros and keep Brown. Frees up cash and gets a similar (better IMO) level of qb play.

Once more for those in the back.... collaros is being paid like a player that should be able to win the big game by himself.

Whoopdeefreakingdoo. Collaros was great in the west final... but that means jack **** when he has been terrible for 3 straight Grey cup games and costs an assload of money.

The Bombers used an American at centre not THAT long ago.... 2000s sometime.

De - fault! De-fault! Collaros started 2023 well, but he fell off a cliff and Brady carried the team

Stamps qb got busted.... thats the real trick in the cfl. You got a qb you got a chance to be good, you don't have a qb you're toast.

Last 2 seasons it was Brady dragged the offense not collaros.

Rosters always look weaker when you lose players to free agency and they don't get replaced by other free agents. Bottom line this teams improvements will come mainly from young players improving and new recruits stepping up. Free agency is headline grabbing and can be used to bolster some areas of need, but to maintain a winning team you must be able to replace people through your recruiting/drafting.

Cause collaros was oh so helpful the last 3 grey cup games....

No I didn't...

I'm so old socks and underwear are all I really want for Christmas...

With a patented Ritchie Hall bend and break soft D in 18 and most of 19 until the end when they solidified the secondary and dominated the playoffs.

Team stats, GTFO with trying to use that ****. Argos are a good team and have been every time dukes got to play (or do you really think it was Chad Kelly that earned all those wins 2 seasons ago?) Most of strevelers starts with the Bombers were prior to them fixing their **** on defense in 2019.

I like Buck, I think he did a lot of really good things for this team.... but last year... wooof that was bad on a lot of levels from the offense.

He got us a win and dragged that calgary game to OT when collaros was well on his way to losing it in regulation. This **** talking of streveler is insane.... dude didn't forget how to play, our offensive coaching was hotngarbage last season.

Is it? Bombers did develop Dru Brown who was the most sought after young qb.... what have the argos done? Kelly sure but they developed dukes so well they decided arbuckle was a better choice...

Yeah Shivers was just the angriest old cuss there ever was. Always had an axe to grind with someone.

I don't know if there's a comparable that springs to mind. I just see him as a guy who can be a true dual threat if he's allowed to be. You use him as a fullback though you aren't helping anything.