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Bullshit. Fox and garbutt as examples played well when they weren't on the ir. Problem is that they insisted on playing thrnold guys on dl and never truly used the youth. Even this year. Person gets a handful of reps, we keep Kornelson on the roster to take a handful of reps... we waste spots on special teams only guys as opposed to guys who can take reps on defense or offense as well as teams. The roster usage blows chunks.

Actually it's super easy! Barely and inconvenience! Our head coach uses his game day roster like **** a lotnof the times. So many times they dress guys who hardly take any snaps or in some cases don't even take any. Guys are other held accountable and don't make way for the depth to step up unless injury forces it. Honestly I've got more time for Walters than I do O'Shea right now. Better use of the players he does have would make a big difference in how games go.

Or passing game was suffering with Kenny last year too. Basically ever since summer 2 seasons ago the offense has been Brady dragging everyone along with him.

Well i thought they'd bounce back after a bye against the team that **** kicked them before... instead they pooped their pants so expect nothing.

Gross. I'd rather ride or die with streveler and mush brain zach than suffer through faj as starter.

But reality is they're probably talking about the pick 6 because it just looks so much worse.

But it's not his tun, those guys have seniority.

Well we've seen the same kinds of problems with multiple coordinators and the common denominator is osh... not sure why it's so hard for some people to accept that Mike O’Shea has flaws.

Haha I know I'm just being a troll.

Kramdi...

I don't know about losing the room, but he's probably still defaulting to the leaders policing... well problem is it's the leaders sucking because they're old. Osh needs to get in there and hold people accountable. It's complacency 100%. From the coaches to the players.

So it's inspired by Booch?

Still angry just thinking about it.

the list of guys who looked good the last 2 games is probably about 3 names long.

So what happened was you had a great team that was super tight and guys took a haircut to stay together... then some guys wanted to get paid so your depth took a hit but it was OK the vets were still good. What's happened now is the depth hasn't been given a chance to play and the coach won't change things up "because it's worked for 5 years " Sadly it seems like we're going to have to have a long losing streak for them to realize it doesn't work anymore.

The OL was beaten like a rented mule all night. Both qbs took a **** kicking. Not gonna do a lot of winning when losing the los

Like yeah... Bridges just quit on the play. Should be an instant cut.

Vaj didn't even look on the throw, he just heaved it to a spot where he thought his receiver should be. Bridges I honestly feel like gave up because he thought vaj was just throwing it away.

I don't think oshea counts as many... Here's the thing with those two... they're OK and you can use guys like that... but they shouldn't be the untouchable mainstays like they seem to be. We got far far too many of those guys on the team now.

Yeah those quotes there are damning... tsn showed multiple times how vaj was just rolling away from wherever the pressure was going to come from and not having to worry about getting hit. There were a few plays they did get some pressure... but not enough to make life uncomfortable for vaj.

Yeah Willie is just completely done at this point.

May not be his MO but doing the same thing over and over again isn't going to help.

Will bang this drum as often as it needs... team is complacent right now. Need a shake up to wake everyone up. Sit a Willie or Thomas.

Well this will go round and round... some of the big free agents acquisitions are not getting on the roster... so is it a gm problem or a who the coach.plays problem?

Yup that about sums up everything...