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Stamps qb got busted.... thats the real trick in the cfl. You got a qb you got a chance to be good, you don't have a qb you're toast.

Last 2 seasons it was Brady dragged the offense not collaros.

Rosters always look weaker when you lose players to free agency and they don't get replaced by other free agents. Bottom line this teams improvements will come mainly from young players improving and new recruits stepping up. Free agency is headline grabbing and can be used to bolster some areas of need, but to maintain a winning team you must be able to replace people through your recruiting/drafting.

Cause collaros was oh so helpful the last 3 grey cup games....

No I didn't...

I'm so old socks and underwear are all I really want for Christmas...

With a patented Ritchie Hall bend and break soft D in 18 and most of 19 until the end when they solidified the secondary and dominated the playoffs.

Team stats, GTFO with trying to use that ****. Argos are a good team and have been every time dukes got to play (or do you really think it was Chad Kelly that earned all those wins 2 seasons ago?) Most of strevelers starts with the Bombers were prior to them fixing their **** on defense in 2019.

I like Buck, I think he did a lot of really good things for this team.... but last year... wooof that was bad on a lot of levels from the offense.

He got us a win and dragged that calgary game to OT when collaros was well on his way to losing it in regulation. This **** talking of streveler is insane.... dude didn't forget how to play, our offensive coaching was hotngarbage last season.

Is it? Bombers did develop Dru Brown who was the most sought after young qb.... what have the argos done? Kelly sure but they developed dukes so well they decided arbuckle was a better choice...

Yeah Shivers was just the angriest old cuss there ever was. Always had an axe to grind with someone.

I don't know if there's a comparable that springs to mind. I just see him as a guy who can be a true dual threat if he's allowed to be. You use him as a fullback though you aren't helping anything.

Streveler came in as a qb and had his initial success as a qb. Somewhere along the way coaches decided he was a runner and that's it. Let him play the position with a full playbook and he either succeeds or he doesn't same as any other player.

Use him as a qb and use him liberally if collaros is going to show his age.

some men just want to watch the world burn

Evergreen statement

From your lips to God's ears...

Kyle walters approach has already got the team to 5 straight Grey cup games... I don't think he needs to be told anything and I don't think Wade Miller is going to start to interfere now.

Kyle walters flat out said in his presser at the end of last year he's trying to win every year. Home Grey cup doesn't change the approach.

If Kyle walters felt signing these guys was THAT important he would have found the money for them. He moved on and wants to use his money elsewhere.

These deals wouldn't be announced if the players were still negotiating. It never happens. Guys know what they're going to be offered and teams don't sit around hoping they can keep guys. They take what happens ans move on.

Lawler is going to have to be replaced by a couple guys. Could make for a deeper group, who knows. Hopefully it forces collaros to not rely on Lawler to bail his ass out all thr time.