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And when I look at what Kyle Walters has done so far I actually do see a plan. Got a vet at MLB, DE, signed a receiver, kick returner/rb.... I mean those were needs he addressed. There's still a whole offseason left to make further tweaks. I know it's tough watching other teams make a huge splash... but those were the teams that had the most holes. How would you like to be the argos watching their whole DL take off?

So really I'd have liked to see Garbutt in camp to compete but it's not a catastrophic loss.

Well just at the DE spot Hubert got a shot, and Bennett the year before.... Haba got a chance but got hurt and ton and never really developed. I think you're taking your displeasure at a couple positions out on the roster as a whole TBH.

That was my joke, kick his tires he likely winds up on the IR

Oh I'm not getting into contract details, just focusing on what he does on the field.

No one thinks he's the bees knees... just that he's better than you give him credit for.

Can I have msn messenger back?

This is why I have a hard time discussing sports with normies in real life... we got the die hards here who hang on every piece of news so trying to talk to people who get their info from tsn during games only.... aye yi yi.... Yeah Facebook exists to have a group chat with people where we can dump whatever random thoughts we have out there and share pictures of kids so grandparents can pretend to be involved in their activities.

I feel you're under rating all 3 guys because of a lacking stat sheet. World beaters? No, but you can do a lot worse (and we have)

Well what did you expect from garbutt and fox when they spent most of the year on the IR? Both are at worst solid contributors... Now Cole as well was injured a bunch bt dude makes plays on teams and where ever they line him up on defense. At worst all are well worth a chance to compete in camp and if they play it's not a bad thing.

Qb forcing the ball to his security blanket and defence teeing off. Plain and simple.

Can you blame them? Toronto sucks.

Jackson Jeffcoat probably counts. They retained him forever. Nichols I'll throw in as well.... when you get into the niche of impactful, home grown not born within a stone's throw then you're shrinking the pool of available options. Overall I'd say their ability to retain players is fine... but we're probably in a point where some turnover needs to happen. Now let's all argue about which turnover.

Well that's one opinion....

Sergio was like the first guy to re-sign no?

Well it is true that with mbb posters the cuts would be the easiest part of the job

Well Brady gonna get like 90% of the touches...

No need to be rash. Negativity for the sake of negativity. There's nothing to base this on

Sucks to lose Wolitarsky. Love that guy. However they likely see Clercius as having huge upside (he does imo) so are moving on. I'd divorce this decision from anything related to Thomas and just call it what it is.

Yep Bighill was a HUGE part of this team getting over the hump... but now he's over the hill and everyone needs to move on. Father time is undefeated.

I believe Jake himself has said "you can't pull fat"

“I realized when I got hurt it’s a real possibility that a club who’s already looking at ways to probably redo their roster, with heavy veterans, this is an easy one for them,” he said. “Whether I think or whether other people think it’s a right decision or not. It’s an easy one to point at and say, ‘It’s probably time.’ “So I understand that from a business stance. I prepared myself for it.” From the winnipeg sun. Doesn't sound like there's hard feelings. Phones do work both ways and bighill got his answer. He also comes across as one of those guys completely unwilling to accept that his time has passed.

So like I said, trust Kyle Walters.

Only friesen can be that obtuse.