Deiter Fan

Honestly. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Yeah you are probably 100% on that tbh...and I suppose it isn't realistic to expect any player to call out anyone for the failings we continue to experience...but damn it I'd sure like MOS to provide some perspective or take some responsibility. This is really the part that sticks in so many craws...definitely mine. We finally have the talent yet continue to experience the same troubling issues.

No, just 25 out of 30 min of the offensive play calling in the 2nd half...unless O'Shea had more involvement than that. Admittedly I don't pay attention to other coaches post game interviews but O'Shea rarely tells us anything we couldn't have determined for ourselves by watching the game. "Another drive, a few more points in the 2nd half and a stop..." "Pretty good command of the game early but we didn't play the 2nd half like that" "We didn't execute well enough to stop them" "There were some execution issues in that last minute" Duhhh. The only hint of assigning blame or taking responsibility may have been when he said, "As coaches we have to look at what we called and what positions we put guys in...be hard with the grading and make sure we're getting better." Surely this has been done numerous times over the course of the last few years yet doesn't seem to be having the desired effect. As a fan I want to know just how much influence he's having on play calling. If LaPo and Hall are just following a cautious style being determined by him then maybe it's him that needs to get his s*it together...or go. If it's all being determined by the co-ordinators then they need to get it together...or go. The fans that have been supporting this championship-less team for 3 decades have a right to know at whom to direct their ire. We surely deserve more then empty platitudes and cliches about needing to "learn from this and improve". Seeing something like this from Hecht doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence “I wish I knew why. This is the fourth time now we’ve been in a similar situation and three of them we ended up on the wrong side of it and on one we managed to hold on. I don’t know what’s going on and if I did , if anybody did, I guess we would have fixed it before the Labour Day game. “Whether it’s self-scouting or guys self-assessing their own will power or maybe coaches assessing schematics or us as players having a higher sense of awareness for situational football… if you’ve got an idea I’d love to hear it, because four in a row is an ugly habit now so we’ve got to figure out what the hell is going on.”

Confirmation from Biggy, that Adams didn't just swing the helmet...he actually hit him with it

Do they still speak to you? 😉

Grew up around Brandon. Live out by Riding Mt. now.

It really is a magical experience when you can introduce someone to the heartbreak that is being a Bomber fan, eh? Nothing like some company for that misery.

I well remember Jack but was clueless on the reference. Never really listened to games on the radio. Reception wasn't always guaranteed where I was so I listened to Whitman call the games on the tube. We used to rag on him as kids for his play calling but I'd trade a bus full of Rod Blacks for him now. He was exceptionally insufferable yesterday.

Glad I asked. I never would have sorted that one out on my own. Thanks.

Impressive. I couldn't get my announcers to implement critiques when it was free let alone be paid for it. Well done. Are you a program director somewhere? Btw...could someone tell me what "HH" stands for?

What does this mean, exactly?

I totally get people feeling dejected and pessimistic after losses like this especially when they are not isolated instances...and I totally get people choosing to remain positive even after losses like this regardless how often they occur. What I will never get is people seeming to taking negative comments directed at the team personally and lashing out at commenters.

We're in!!!

Perhaps...but it's not like he would be giving the playbook away by continuing with what has already been succeeding. He didn't need to flip to the back of the playbook in the second half. He just needed to continue with what was already proving successful. Having said that...maybe these opposing DCs are figuring him out after 2 quarters and he's unable/unwilling to counter punch. Pffft...I don't know anymore...honestly...sigh...

I hear ya...honestly...but how do we account for blistering first halves followed by bed shi**ing second halves? It's the same players. Surely they don't forget how to play after taking a 15min break. But we can all see a marked difference in play calling.

Honestly this is what I'm beginning to come back to over and over again recently. In any organization the employees take their cues from management. These are professional co-ordinators...surely they could adjust their patterns if they were encouraged/instructed to by management. If they're not changing then either they are incapable or management doesn't want it/doesn't recognize the need.

Rod Black - "Bombers have this well in hand" PLOP - "Hold my beer" Hall - "Nah...hold MY beer"

This. It's one thing to have an OC that plays conservative with a lead if you have a DC that plays aggressive regardless the score...or vice versa...but to have them both play with the same "safe" attitude is just a recipe for disaster.

The talent is definitely there. I don't think that's what concerns most people.

This team has a "coast"/"play it safe" with a lead mentality. Both co-ordinators suffer from it. Makes me wonder if the problem isn't O'Shea. He's the leader of this team. If both co-ordinators suffer from the same affliction it's either a big coincidence (which is certainly a possibility) or they are getting their attitudes from the top. Am I out to lunch? Do we just happen to have 2 of the most gutless co-ordinators in the league?

How can Lawrence still be in the league? He's going to break someone's neck one of these days.

Of course...but the reality is professional athletes want both. Sure winning is great but it's not as great if you virtually played no part in the victory. Any athlete that dedicates a major part of their life to compete wants to be the best and being the best means personal performance. Would any of us really want players on our team that didn't want to be the best? Would any of us feel as satisfied/accomplished winning a championship we played little part in helping to achieve? A player's career is pretty short. Not many years to make your mark. Expecting players to not care about their personal legacy to something to which they have dedicated their life is not reasonable. There's a difference between being a team-first guy and not caring if, or how, you perform personally. I don't think there'd even be professional athletes if there wasn't pride in personal accomplishments.

No expert by any means but I have a tremendous amount of trepidation over Hall's ability to scheme against a great passer like BLM with good receivers. Granted we haven't been the victims of the dreaded explosion play like we were last year but he still makes me nervous.

Sometimes he picks up 18 yards on a QB sneak. Tough to game plan for that kind of ability.

My impression as I watched it was Gainey was congratulating us for trying to get a penalty called on a dive. Essentially suggesting we were classless. Ironic, don'tcha think?