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If he gave up 6 interceptions and threw for zero TDs but still won because the D caused 10 turnovers I bet he wouldn't have been much happier. It is possible to be satisfied with your performance and dissatisfied with a loss...or vice versa.

My thoughts/feelings on this entire situation are constantly evolving. I can't deny that our regular season records have been pretty good since he took over (the first 2 years not withstanding) so he obviously has skills as a coach...and it's probably accurate that he is likely to stay as long as that remains the case. The fact is we really have little insight into how much influence he has on play calling on either side of the ball...how he runs the locker room (except for the tid-bit he let slip during the call in show this week which, frankly, surprised and concerned me a bit)...or any other number of things that may influence our performance. In reality we simply have to take what we get and hope that at some point they make it to the show and come home with the Cup because god knows we have no control over it. That is probably what frustrates us the most.

Fair enough. Just to be clear to all members here I'm not advocating that we do...or not do...something. To be honest while I've followed this team since the 70s it's never been a hobby for me like it has for some of the more learned members here. My comments in many instances are not coming from a place of deep knowledge of the intricacies of the game but rather from the point of an interested/invested observer. I may be a student of the human condition/tendencies and feel I can speak confidently about that aspect but not the complicated ins and outs of the game...so please don't take my comments as dismissive or arrogant. They are certainly not intended that way.

Yes. I didn't include Murphy because his stints were broken up but yes, technically the 3rd longest serving coach if we add Murphy's together. In his defence he was raw as a HC when given the job and has, admittedly, gotten better over his tenure...but there appears to be a hurdle here that he is having difficulty clearing and this year especially it can't be blamed on talent...and I'm not sure talent can be blamed for the last couple of years. A coach's job is to get the most out his players. We've had consistency in the coaching positions and the QB spot so we can't blame it all on turnover in important areas. If he doesn't get us to the Cup this year given all the pieces he's been provided at what point do we begin to discuss the possibility that the issue is his coaching philosophies?

If I'm not mistaken he is now the 2nd longest serving coach in Bomber history and all we have to show for it is a .500 W/L record and one play-off win out of 4 tries. Not slagging him but facts are facts.

Official sees helmet being ripped off. Official appears in the camera frame a second after Adams swings the helmet but claims he didn't see it. BULLLLLLLLLS*IT 😡

So it's not me just being unaware...you haven't been noticing any audibles either. Good to know.

Hmmm...interesting. Thanks for sharing that.

Who's to say by that point our descendants will still be living in this solar system?

I can see that. There are some boxers that are only able to fight one way and have successful careers...but being able to adjust your style based on your opponents proclivities tends to offer the best opportunity for success.

Yeah that's kinda what I suspected

Is this the way it is with all co-ordinators? They only have one way/style of doing things and they aren't able to adjust to make the most of the players they have?

Fascinating and illuminating comments from Mo. Should be it's own thread. Thanks for sharing.

Do you think it should matter if contact was made if a player swings a helmet at another player with intent?

While I don't necessarily disagree the only thing that matters is how has playing soft (for lack of a better term) been working for this particular regime over the last few seasons? When even MOS is second guessing his attitude one has to wonder if perhaps it hasn't been having the desired effect.

One need not see contact...nor should it matter if contact was made...to eject for ripping off an opposing player's helmet and swinging it at him.

BINGO! The notion that the ref that saw the helmet ripping and called the penalty...who ran up into the camera frame a second after Adams swung the helmet...didn't see it is utter BS.

There's a difference between fired up and over confident Does anyone ever say..."Gee, I wish Willy didn't get so fired up after a sack. I wish he would just keep an even keel and get on with the job"?

MOS said something last night that may lend some credence to the top-down notion Paraphrasing... The guys came in at half-time all fired up over the lead talking about how they were going to run it up in the second half and I told them to calm down and re-focus...which is what good coaches are supposed to do, right? Maybe that was the wrong thing to do. Maybe I should have let them feed off their bravado. Players feed off momentum and he wanted them to forget about all the momentum they built up in the first half and go out as if it was zero-zero.

Paraphrasing... We're stupid for for feeling emotional after the loss. Streveler sucks. We would have won if Nichols was in. We're stupid for having opinions. Condescension. Derision. Self righteousness. A little extra condescension for good measure.

I simply may not have noticed but I'll be damned if I can remember the last time a Bomber QB called an audible. I do recall other teams QBs doing it but for the life of me I can't remember Matt or Chris doing it.

Up-voted for "terminal stupidity" and "moribund"

Right. So while he may have provided a general direction he didn't give him a road map. I'm just at a loss to explain/understand why you wouldn't keep playing the game that got you the lead. I guess that's why I'm not a professional coach.

Well...according to the accepted laws of physics the expansion of the universe should have slowed, stopped and began to retract at some point. Instead it continues to accelerate to the point that cosmologists theorize that at some point in the distant future our descendants will look skyward and not see one single star. In short...the universe doesn't make any more sense than this team.

Fair enough...but can O'Shea not just say, "listen...no more of this easing off with a lead. We keep playing the game that got us the lead even if it means embarrassing teams"? Or am I being naive?