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1 minute ago, Goalie said:
For the record I'll be the first to admit that willy has sucked this year but.... 3 American OL certainly makes a difference. Bond was a beast out there. Harris running for over 100 plus yards shows you the OL does make a huge difference
100 yards + on some 7 yards per carry in the first half alone. He was beasting.
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1 minute ago, Goalie said:
If anyone doesn't think that the 3 import OL didn't make a huge difference you are fooling yourself. It's no coincidence Harris had his best game running.
Thats true, but edmonton is also dead last in sacks in the cfl. But i am cautiously optimistic this core of guys can keep it going moving forward.
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Well, he did a great job of getting rid of the ball quickly. And ate a sack where he easily could have tried to force some thing. We scored 2 tds in the red zone, but really kicked far too many FGs. Made a lot of good decisions, only forced the ball a couple times. Missed a couple guys but was very effective and drove the field. Some how we still really lacked production in the 3rd quarter.
He didnt get a ton of help from plops play calling. A lot of the old hat calls. The OL played a monster game though. Best of the whole year. We seem to have found our starting OL. Though edmonton is dead last in qb sacks in the cfl. The D didnt rack up the turn overs, but a few guys came up with some huge plays and played solid till we went to prevent.
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Just now, Stickem said:
I think Willy has been outed as the qb. he really is....and wouldn't it have been nice to have had Nichols behind centre a helluva lot earlier in the season...Makes one wonder.
would have been nice to have that OL play the whole year.
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3 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Gale has had 1 good game. It's to early to say anything there
true enough weve seen a few qbs have brief stints of brilliance only to disappear quickly. He looked good though. Thats better then some guys we've run out there.
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Just now, Floyd said:
Look it up. I'm watching Glen Suitor.
you claimed its true and well publicized lets see it
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Just now, Floyd said:
It was well publicized that Harris didn't feel that he had a prominent role in the offence... calm down.
Anyway, Nichols looking real good right now... hope it keeps going.
link
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3 minutes ago, Rod Black said:
I know what your saying. If we say it.
Don't hire because, "not a good interview - unsuitable media presence - questionable work ethic etc."
Yeah thats very possible. I mean he was canned from edmonton just before a play off game with less reason. But for me, as a fan if we are gonna go down that road we have to follow it to its logical conclusion.
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11 minutes ago, Logan007 said:
The question is, if anyone else was the GM of Edmonton at the time, would the outcome be the same? That is, was he forced, or whoever would have been GM, have been forced to do it? If he had a choice, then for sure, that's a stupid thing to do. Unfortunately none of us know what happened behind closed doors.
In any case I doubt he'd be coming here anyway so this whole point is moot. Or moo if you're name is Joey.
Edit: well I guess he didn't get nothing for Ray. He got Jyles, Shaw and the no 2 pick. Still not a great trade.
yeah thats some thing none of us will ever know. did the pick turn into any one?
1 minute ago, Goalie said:I'd be somewhat surprised if this isn't a massive ass wooping tonight. MOS will be around for a while longer
Usually a big change shakes up a team and gets more out of them for a game maybe two.
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31 minutes ago, Rod Black said:
People do change. An absolute discharge is not "not guilty". The facts are he did what he was accused of doing. No criminal record but a police record for a period.
Any organization does not have to cut current employees because of considering hiring a guy with a record. The organization has the authority to not hire, pretty much for any reason they want.
As mentioned a guy that trades away a Franchise quarterback is possibly a loose cannon. In this fairly moral city, the risk to hire, the blowback, maybe more than would be tolerated by the WFC.
thats a good point too. People change and make mistakes. He plead guilty, thats guilty.
I was saying if we take a moral high point where we refuse to hire some one like him because of that kind of past, we'd have to let go of a bunch of guys.
I agree with that on ray. That was a huge head scratcher and that kind of move would be my primary concern with him. He is generally a very sharp football mind though. Some times guys like that end up out thinking them self.
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46 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Like when I suggested that not going after Trevor Harris was a mistake... or that Mitchell Gale might have something... I remember Mike telling me I was an idiot for suggesting that Ernest Jackson was worth 180k...
There's a little circle jerk of bullies on this forum... its really turning into another OB just replaced Colin thats all
we could not have afforded harris, and why would he want to come here to back up a young qb on a bad team instead of going to back up the oldest guy in the league on a very good team? Its not stuff like that, though you have become a broken record with harris. Its the frequent and drastically wrong stuff you spew like how harris wasnt a versatile enough back for wally.
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1 minute ago, WBBFanWest said:
He plead guilty, was given an absolute discharge
ya i see that now. The whole thing sounds gree hee hee heeasy.
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2 hours ago, Logan007 said:
Because he sexually assaulted a 16 year old girl (his kids babysitter, he basically grinded up against her, both were fully clothed) after taking a double dose of sleep and pain medication.
Personally, the guy has no history of any criminal activity, and he's never been charged of anything since. As far as I'm concerned, I'd take him as a GM. You can't keep blaming someone for something they did in the past once they've changed and moved on. But people are like that. You do something wrong and people want to blame you for it for the rest of your life.
was he convicted of that? I remember it happening but dont remember any verdict or plea.
looked it up should have in the first place i guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Tillman
Tillman pleaded guilty to the charge on January 4, 2010, the day his trial on this summary offence was to begin.[16] He was granted an absolute discharge the following day and subsequently received no criminal record but was fined $50.00.[24][25] Judge Murray Hinds stated that Tillman was "genuinely remorseful [and] in this case there's no suggestion that Mr. Tillman is not generally of good character. He has no prior criminal record. His behaviour towards [the teenage girl] on Aug. 6 appears to be an aberration fuelled by his consumption of two non-prescription drugs."[26] On January 8, 2010, he resigned from his position as the Roughriders' general manager.[17]
Pretty sickening. Tbh mixing morality and sports is really tough. Its easy to judge some one like him, but the amount of troubled/troubling individuals around pro sports is massive. If we deny some one like him a job we'd have to cut any one involved with the team who had similar things in the past. We have had some long time beloved players who had very troubled lives away from football.
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i pray we pull out a win for him
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3 minutes ago, JohnnyOnTheSpot said:
I would add that Nichols needs help from the receivers. They need to catch everything close.
over all id say the wrs have been good but weve had a few costly drops.
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32 minutes ago, Goalie said:
The Extra Point is pretty much the same people tho that are on here. Isn't it? Sure looks like that. I find this forum to be a little more relaxed and chill than the others. By that I mean and yeah agreed it gets annoying reading the same posts from the same people in the same topic... I mean the drew willy thread there.... how many times can you say the same thing really. .. but mods here seem more chilled.
Idk looks like 2-3 active posters over there. I didnt take a long look though didnt have the stomach for it.
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5 minutes ago, Floyd said:
We had two decent QBs in Marve and Elliott that needed a lot of help... instead it feels like we took their run and gun style and tried to change it into pocket passing dink-n-dunkers.
Similar to what Montreal is doing to Cato and even Bridge right now... At least, Wally recognizes Jennings for what he is.
I guess we can't really recognize Toronto for 'developing' Gale since they dumped him and went with McPherson...
Very simple equation in the end - Bomber's don't spend enough on scouting... the end.
No one ruined or changed marve. He had had 2-3 knee surgeries and then re injured it again. They didnt try and turn marve into a pocket passer at all. mos even talked about how he can make things happen with his legs before several games. He showed flashes in very limited action and then the more he played and as teams had an idea of his style they evaporated.
Elliot wasnt this regime of scouts or gm pres etc.
Often young mobile qbs breaking into the league resort to runs as its effective and the same as down south. They down have to adapt a lot to running, the bigger field and smaller defenders makes it easier. But as they get used to playing and are more comfortable they go back to passing more. You cant change a pro qb very much. When they get here they have had 3-4 years of starting and being the man in the ncaa at a high level. Plus 2-4 years of starting and being the man in HS which for many of them was huge in terms of pressure and development as well. You can almost never change a qb at the pro level. Their mechanics are what they are, and their mentality as well. Plus teams dont recruit running qbs who have far more raw passing skill and turn them into pocket passers. If you want a pocket passer, you recruit a pocket passer whose dramatically better at that skill set. On top of all that, no one really gives running qbs a big look up here currently. And no one brings up x/y/z pro set pure pocket passers either. Most all of the starters and back ups have a very similar skill set in the cfl. Mobile, able to roll evade some pressure and pick up some yards but passers.
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3 hours ago, Logan007 said:
Geez, is that site still up?
Edit: OMG Road Griller is still over there talking about Goltz. LOL
Edit #2: Well I feel dumber for reading that board. That Steingart guy with all of his "inside information".
good god i feel sick after 30 seconds of browsing that turd pile. RIP
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3 hours ago, B-F-F-C said:
I'll still come around every so often but this site is now being dominated by half a dozen posters who ad nauseum say the same thing over and over again.
My Internet policy is that I don't write anything on these sites that I wouldn't say to the persons face. Many here have should follow the same policy.
Thanks for the great years of Bomber Talk but it's now become a Bomber ***** board with no real football talk.
just use the ignore feature and remove what you see as toxic makes things a lot better.
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6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
but that's what I mean when I say stable. The CFL has a high player turnover rate, it just does, but it's the stability in the management and coaching staff that lets teams develop qbs. Toronto and BC have had that stability in the management and they are finding qbs as a result. Calgary has been stable in that aspect as well and lo and behold they have no trouble at the position either.
soo true. If you look at the best teams over long periods of time the key to their success is that they can turn over players and maintain a high level of play. Montreal and those defenders and wrs, calgary and the wrs and rbs etc.
When you having a strong winning system its dramatically easier to take one player and get them to fit into a role and fill a hole.
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11 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
Except, TO isn't winning championships....
they did after flutie left, and had great qbing post flutie and are a better qb mill now then ever. idk how you managed to miss the point soo badily. Moving on to a better younger qb has seldom led to teams regretting letting go of the older qb. (when your team is a qb puppy mill)
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15 minutes ago, bryan35 said:
Reilly can move out of the pocket to buy time and make plays. Willy hasn't done that. Willy has been a statue in the pocket.
Other teams also move the pocket/slide the pocket. I haven't seen much of that this year with the Bombers.
Reilly is really good at that, but willy has shown plenty of mobility, Staying in the pocket despite the pressure isnt a bad thing. But i do like a qb that will roll from pressure. We moved the pocket and slide protection, sent willy on rolls only in hammer. Idk why we didnt earlier or why we stopped.
Does a blow out against the Tiger-Cats cost MOS his job?
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are we gonna have this every single week?