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I don't think legacy plays into the picture at all. I don't think Mos has thought about his legacy for a second. I suspect he thinks this is the best way to win. All you need is football IQ and character. But football has one of the biggest advantages in sport towards athleticism and raw talent. When you deprive your self of those factors, you hurt your chances to win. You need those guys to balance out a roster, but it's like building a house out of nothing but mortar. No bricks, no boards. If you look at our roster by position groups, how many positions do we have 1 player can go out and just dominantly win a snap 1on1 with the opposition? Imo, wilson with some regularity, a couple ol with no regularity at all, lawson/woods with no regularity at all, wj same, vaval and nichols. When I look at Hamilton's offence alone, I see more guys who can do that with far greater regularity. When I look at the riders, I see significantly more on each side of the ball than we have on our roster, and again with far greater regularity. People look at that and will blame Walters and the front office. But I see us sitting and cutting guys who can do that and become guys who do that with regularity for guys who can't do that and won't become that.

3 keys - Bombs away, we need hamilton zach or old mop zach to show up. We need the win, but we also need a statement and a momentum building after last weeks bed crapping. WR step up, we've cycled through a bunch of guys and now with demski out, we need guys to step up more than ever. I expect a big game from wilson, but some one else needs to take the next step or two as well. Turnover battle, we have to win it. We've been crushed by the rate of our own failures this year, and we need to get past that immediately.

A great example of a glue guy, imo, is Sheed. He wasn't a top 3 WR, and he didn't need to be. He was the last imp wr on the roster, but after some early career struggles, was as reliable as can be, blocked his ass off, ran the sweep, and did all the little things extremely well. He was also a tremendous character guy, a leader, and a culture setter. Early on when he was fighting his hands he was on the verge of getting cut. And when we got to a point where we needed to save money and develop more young wrs he was gone. Imo, he was gone a bit too soon. But he brought a lot while he was here. You don't need that guy, but you sure are glad to have him when hes here.

his vets loved him, and guys loved playing on those teams. they were a serious draw to free agents. but at the same time, he kicked guys to the curb the moment they dropped off. didn’t matter what they did in the past or what they earned.

I’m not a fan of either pick, but I think mgk is a better fit with the target demo and players than country. I mean, I think he’s pretty close to pop country, but atleast he’s in a better direction. Pass thing, they shouldve done some staggered release of tickets and added more.

If you think selfish, me first players in football generally had short careers, you’ve soundly fallen out of touch. Their careers aren’t shorter than any one else’s, and their numbers in modern pro football is extremely high. Dickie never put any kind of stamp on those riders teams. that was all chris jones through and through. they didn’t flush the jones way of doing things till this regime now. That regime didn’t value talent over character, they recruited only for talent and at times seemed to prize the toxic head case types. It’s not a question of one guy more or less talented. Talent is a small glimpse production. Hubert last year wasn’t a tremendous talent, he was and is a very good role guy despite his talent level because he was smart, tough, and had good hands. The problem is we start guys no one else would. It’s not a potential talent thing, or athleticism thing, or a fit/production thing. It’s literally all of those with guys like kola and jake. They are so far below the average replacement level it’s terrifying. Look at a guy like christopher fortin. True rookie canadian starting, was the last pick of the first round. He is soo much better than kola it’s not even funny, but what’s worse, is he would probably be our 2nd best ol this year. Half our games he might be our best ol. Veresuk is also starting as a true rookie canadian, he was the second pick, but he’s out played veteran imports on our team. We plugged in guys like allen, and woodbey making our D better, months after continually trying to force fit bad players. We’ve done this every year for a long time. We kept hammering collin kornelson not just onto the AR but into high volume rotation over a bunch of better players while handily over our ratio requirements. These are heavy handed, undisputed downgrades we forced our self to endure because we didn’t want to play the best players. That’s not even scratching into repeatedly hammering guys like biggie and schoen into the line up when they were badly compromised in terms of health and un able to perform. It’s not arm chair qbing, it’s not conspiracy theorists or wild accusations. It’s now becoming so prevalent that even the complacent media are firing shots at our coaching. Roster management issues have always been the reality. We backed ended into an all time squad and rode it into the dirt. Every team needs glue guys. but you have to have the pieces to glue together. other wise you’re just glue, and we are pretty close to that now. Half our cap is tied up in guys who are fringe league guys.

They did bring in 3 guys essentially for one spot, in white, sterns and mitchell. But they could’ve brought in some one who was less of a hail mary. White was the best of them in camp imo. Glad lawson is off for houston too. It’s wild though how thin we are at soo many positions.

not only that, cobb is far pre valuable for depth on teams than corcoran

yep sure sounds like it. I think corcoran will play over cobb. Should be cobb though.

with our depth, more likely that we dress less

it’s too bad, a us league could do really well with a faster play clock, 3 downs, motion/wagle and a wider field.

it’s interesting in theory, but in reality if you just use the waggle late in games players are not going to get adept at it. It’ll be one of those seldom used poorly executed things.

we mostly talked about dooley. Dixon is a hell of a football player too though. one of those tc mvps in the nfl with the jags. more of a kongbo than a pure pass rusher.

Wow... thats all I got good luck UFL

probably. Give him a big front loaded bonus then he decides to retire rather than report and keep the bonus

99% of the fan base including on here would toute his second chance as soon as he won a game. Thankful we won’t go after him, it’s gonna be edmonton that does imo.

very un surprising. In general I would take the ball for any thing short of mad weather. But our O in the 3rd is soo bad again this year we might have done better to run or kneel and limit our offensive snaps lol

Every one needs to do better in the coaching staff. Jy has not taken the step forward I had hoped he would after last years brilliant adjustments. That said, with what we are married to on the dl, I don’t think JY could do any thing other than drop every one and hope for the best. We’ve managed to limit tds and red zone better than any one else. but honestly some of that has looked like we’ve been as lucky as good. Now i’ve seen time this year where we have repeatedly failed to get deep enough in the second level and play too far off in the 3rd level. Giving away uncontested first downs on second and long. Being married to tony jones really hurts our pass D. In our scheme we need a guy who can either get deep enough to take away the mid field by first down marker on 2nd and long, or one who can disrupt on a regular basis by pass rushing. And jones is just lost in decision making and seldom deep enough. In the pass rush he’s little more than a guy trying to block a blocker. The Dl is the real heart of the problem as we all know. With two canadians on the field of half the snaps we aren’t gonna disrupt or get pressure. WJ can still make plays, but aside for the precious few games were he turns it on, he’s the worst pass rushing starting de in the league. He’s also one of the worst run stoppers. He needs to be a rotational guy, and even then you gotta keep on him to not coast. Even the rest of Vaughters, woods, lawson and adams don’t have the answers. I like woods, lawson and adams a lot, but neither is the guy who plays the most snaps. Vaughters has been solid mostly, if unspectacular. And is really yet another 3rd guy in an ideal rotation. Imo, DL gives the best value for cap hit in free agency. But it’s also a hit or miss position.

banking on this now lol agree with basically all that. One thing, whats worse Jy and the execution on that 3rd and 2, Or hogan and the draw on the last play of the game down by 5?

You have to go back to about mid-2023 to see the last time Zach had 2 good games back to back. He had 3 in a row, and 2 to start the year. Which indeed makes for long odds against us. If he's just ok, 70%, 8+ ypa, 250+, 1 td, no picks for all the rest of our games, we have a chance. If we get that Zach and the dominant run game we could have, we have a good chance. But our run game is boom or bust, and even when it's booming, we don't lean on it. In his 3 best games this year, Brady is averaging 8.7 ypc and 15 carries. We won 2 of those games and were close in all 3, but even then we couldn't/wouldn't pound the rock. Since week 10 (9 games), we've given up an average of 19.77 points per game. Including 31 to Toronto, 34 to the riders, and 32 to the stamps. We've only given up more than 34 points once this year. With the insane amount of turnovers/defensive scores we've given up, as well as the amount of TOP and yards against us, that's pretty crazy. We have some of the fewest ints, TFL, sacks, etc, but we've given up the fewest TDs.

He's been overlooked badly on a few routes, though. Idk, Zach/the system really seems like oil and water with Mitchell for some reason. I could see him really lighting it up next year with another team, especially against us. I have no expectations for Wheatfall. I'd rather see us work in Echols, but it isn't gonna happen.

I like Doman, I like what they are trying to do in that market, I like a bunch of their football guys. McDairmid, Bourgoin, Young, Ringmaiden, etc. I like Rourke a lot more after he spoke out against the rules. They got a bunch of guys on the roster I like. I love the way they rebuilt that DL, too. I love Buck the person; I had high hopes for him as a football mind and coach. I could see his last year here being what it was due to how the mafia works. Really don't like Awe and a couple of other guys.

Yep, it's matt nichols all over again. The final move of any deep route is coming back to the ball and not by a small adjustment either. Difference is, nichols could manage the game. If we do that like we did vs hamilton, we got a chance. If we don't, we've got no shot.

And even more interesting to see which blue bomber squad shows up.

Another big imp G trying to translate to T. Played some DL as a redshirt freshman. Next year, he started all 12 games, first 4 at rt rest at guard. Next year, he played in 6 games, starting just 2, one at each guard spot. His last 2 years, he really excelled. He allowed 1 sack each year on 270 and 428 passing snaps. Had a stellar 95+% win rate on passing downs.