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2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We didn’t want to pay sayles. Or Kongbo. Or stove. We thought every guy we ran out would perform at that level. Even Jake. And he/they didn’t. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yup. I think it’s actually easier in the cfl, if you have a nose and a couple 3 tech guys who can rush out of a 30, even more so if you have an end who can rush standing up. Guys who can kick in and outside are tremendous. Soo many rushers get caught up going one way only. Power or speed. By the fact is inside the line most teams are weak to any thing more than vanilla. Especially bit elite import athleticism. Stove wasn’t the best technical rusher inside. He was monstrously strong with incredible power. Using quickness to hit hard and drive angles around guards is money in the cfl. Casey sayles does it really well. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That was an extraordinary win for the Vic fangio style defense. The same we ran sooo much of last year. 0 blitzes, 6 sacks, 15 pressures on 32 pass plays. Almost a pressure on every other snap. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
From the bits I’ve heard I have no doubt that his ire, distrust, and quick temper were stoked by circumstances outside of his control. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Too lazy to do the math, is that right? 7 months seems soo short I thought he was hurt early last year. But those early weeks and month to two was pretty bad. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If he had a decent play call in those games we might’ve seen the last of zach. the rider fans were the hardest on him imo. I wish I had an inside view as to what happened last year. Buck flashed potential in the past, saw some great game plans LT start games, and some really good adjustments. He let zach do what zach is best at for a while. That all changed soo hard last year, I feel like some thing had to have been up. Pure speculation, but I wonder if he wanted Dru brown to take over. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Strev carried us for two games, with the worst ol play we’ve had since drew willys days, and the worst wr play too. Even worse offensive play call and game plan as well. Dukes was as protected as humanly possible by the situation and system he played in. And he was still meh. I would pass on dukes, cut both riders and take Masoli in a heat beat. Best chance to go into a game off the bench and win. But we have strevy so that won’t happen. All these guys below strevy Zach and Wilson are tc arms. I think if you give Strev a decent system and let him make plays, he’d put pass dukes too. But I do agree, basically the worst case scenario with strevy is a guy who gives us hands down a better chance to win. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Fajardo had the same issue. I bet Montreal would be the best move for him. he isn’t better than Wilson, or strevy. He is better than the rider off casts. His fit is also worse here than most any place else. We’ve seen Wilson and strevy in the worst possible situations. Dukes was spoon fed the best possible situation. Dukes is in the same tier as the rider off casts, but he’s ahead of them just based on potential. In the cfl, the qb2 is gonna be leading your team at some point. I would not be ok with dukes being qb2 short of a massive leap forward from him. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah I don’t get the take that strevy has his shot or can’t pass at all. We haven’t seen him run a normal offence in the cfl since 2018. We did see him run an offence with the jets in pre season. He needs to be allowed to run dynamically. He isn’t Mike Vick or Lamar Jackson. Being more of a power runner he shouldn’t be running a lot of designed plays. When he does they should be designed to get him in space for easy yards. Not hammering away option runs between the tackles. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He's raw. Last year was his second year and first starting. IF you aren't going to put arbuckle in in a situation like that, why have him on your roster? Remember, Wilson is OLDER than dukes still. He was a young guy forced into action virtually right away. You know what you get with Arbuckle, if a D has a chance to prepare for him they should beat him. Dukes is still largely an unknown he hasn't had the chance yet to try to adjust to how teams play him. Like I said, I'm not crazy about Dukes, arbuckle, or either rider off cast qb. But Dukes easily has the most potential of that whole group. All 3 are old and well-exposed in the CFL. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Doubt it. Think this will be his last season though. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Neither is great, but dukes has raw potential. Hoenstly if strevy is healthy in decent time and Wilson has continued to grow I’m not worried. QBs 4/5 are camp arms. I can see value in having 2 experienced league guys in at those spots to bring along WRs/dbs and get the offence installed faster. No one has to make the adjustment to the Canadian game every one has run O in games. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
No Joke. I’m not crazy on duke, but Patterson is a big old pile of meh. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Shivers was an extremely talented gm/scout. But that was basically his side job. His main job was holding grudges. I can say some of those were well earned and justified. But when you are always that angry and have grudges against soo many you gotta be part of the problem too. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yep. Always comes down to that with QBs. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
He has all the tools you could want. Raw talent, Athleticism, and arm. He can be a dual threat and run package stuff but he tends to take what’s in front of him. Not a run to run instinct guy. He’s a run to throw guy who’s dangerous with his legs. Strong guy to not just his arm, Carried some tacklers in college and pushed piles. But great arm stuff. Power, accuracy and touch. Poise, this was a big one for me. From ps up he never looked scared or like pressure affected him negatively. It just changes what’s available and he looks to take what’s open. Mental toughness, competitiveness. Stepping in in that spot and not only being calm/in control but going for the throat like that. And mechanics looks real good. Like his foot work and quick release. He’s got a great economy of movement in his upper and lower body. He can change his release point when the pocket collapses or is on the run as well. His release is soo clean it almost looks like he’s short arming it then the ball just launches from his hand. it’ll come down to what’s between his ears now. I’ve got no questions on the rest of his stuff. If he can run an offense at the pro level and execute pre and post snap reads he’s gonna go far fast. Dru brown took a long time to polish up. Scary terry doesn’t look like he will need all that time. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Dropping dole for dukes makes sense to me. I’m not crazy over dukes, but he’s got a lot more potential and a similar floor. I’d be happy to boot dole early and bring in a rookie development guy. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Same thing happened with lapo. Twice. Reputation and time in the league get you jobs and shots. It’s happened a lot. I mean for an optimal camp we do want one more qb. I thought it’d be a rookie though. a lot of things go into being a good hc. The best hc isn’t often the best co, it’s more about development of players coaches and in game decisions. Lapo is a much better hc than oc imo. Because he’s a great teacher, leader, and boss. His weaknesses at oc aren’t as strong at hc, except he always insisted on running the offence him self. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah. And I’m very excited to see that. I think the nature of his touches evolves. Less hard sledding between the guards. Less random shots and more diverse plays taking advantage of our best guys. I think the touches mostly come out of the junk. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Bucks offence was very different than lapos. And since buck is coaching in bc, you will certainly see changes. We will see which group the counter toss, two back pa stuff was coming from and who was forcing the majority of runs to be izr. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
We used him like a freaking battering ram. A better Kerry Joseph or Tracy ham. No not really. The problem is we put him in running terrible packages with little options. Zach has been too quick to tuck the ball and take off. Strevy keeps it alive in his hand till he crosses the line and keeps his eyes down field. Making reads isn’t his problem. -
2024/2025 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to TBURGESS's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Or use him properly. That’s the million dollar question. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I’ll kick in for the limo and help arrange the police escort A few guys change their mind every year. I feel like Roberson has done this like 2 times before already too Mediocre is all they’ve done since 21. It’s legit to build a team from the bottom up, especially when you think you have the qb in place. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
That’d be sick. Just imagine 3dn breaking the news. “The Hamilton Tiger-Cats are attempting to acquire Jake Thomas from the bombers, they’ve offered 4 first round picks. Mos has handcuffed himself to Jake and the bud grant statue in protest.” Hubert was struggling with the speed of the game after a month or so. But he still showed great ability to get off blocks and play the run. Tremendous motor and strength. Love the versatility and football iq. I hope he gets a good shot at development in Hamilton. -
2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread
wbbfan replied to WinnipegGordo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
If we keep ayers that takes some of the sting out of Cole but I would’ve loved to have both. Oh man that’d tear the roof off this place lmao. Just see mos looking at him from the side line with a tear rolling down his cheek.