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The players playing pro are the best. So someone who is good in NCAA is making a transition up to play pro. So everyone gets excited about a guy who had success at NCAA school(s) but like I said....the talent is relative. They are competing with the best which isn't what they competed against in NCAA. Even if you want to look at a P5 roster you're looking at a fraction of those players making it at all in pro football.

Yeah, I know they’re limited in what they can do for call ups, but I was hoping to see some shuffling at least. Give Barron some 2C reps, give Rosen a chance to play with some speed on his line instead of slow and old. All the things we’ve mentioned in our posts before…. Just mix it up a bit and see if you can find something interesting.

He hopefully retires. Honestly sounded like jets were a bit disappointed with JT from chevy PC. Read between the lines stuff. 10 years ago JT is what people expected. What we got was a dude who might struggle in the beer leagues.

Talent isn't the primary limiting factor. It's everything that comes after talent that brings success; that's what is lacking. Wilson has plenty of talent. Chase did. Grainger had crazy talent. We get raw talent QBs these days. It takes a lot to polish them if they don't wash out. And a whole lot of them do wash out. This isn't a bombers thing either; this is a league and football-wide issue. Half the starting QBs in the league are closer to pension than to college. More than half, frankly, suck at being a starting QB. The NFL is struggling for QBs, and they've opened wide the maw to vacuum up and hold as many guys as possible. The PR expansions and increases in pay mean we don't get a polished guy with talent anymore. The NIL money makes that problem even worse. Plus, the NFL has diversified in offensive systems along with the college game. No more do we see guys completely ignored because of the offence they ran. Why come up here and, at best, get to play behind a shaky OL (League and sport-wide OLs are struggling as well) and risk a poor quality of life for less money than you make as QB2 at a good program? You always have live and breathe football guys, but the modern generations of football players have far more diverse interests. It's no longer a prerequisite to love football more than a good quality of life. Also, the modern transfer window has hurt a lot of kids' development. Instead of toughing it out and earning a spot after 2 years, they transfer or drop down to juco to try and get a better starting job. The transfer window is fair for the kids, but it isn't an aid in developing QBs. It helps many positions, but not QB imo. Look at Elgersma, a relative unknown to most us scouts until he went pro (compared to us prospects that the scouts have watched since middle school), and he's still getting enough interest to linger on the periphery of the NFL. If he were a Texas/Florida/SoCal, etc. kid who had performed well in junior and high school, we'd never see him. We saw a few years ago Edmonton, Toronto, and Montreal dipped their toes into massive QB pools for camp. Talking 10-ish QBs or more. It failed miserably. What kids with talent need to develop is time and a lot of effort. They also need to have great intangibles, like Dru Browns mental toughness, in order to survive and embrace the grind to step up to qbing at the pro level. It's easily the hardest job in sports. A lot can, and has been said (by myself and others) about the negatives of our scouting and roster management/development strategy. If we see a red flag in the work ethic, ability to uptake the game, passion, or mental toughness of a QB, he is gone.

And, with all respect to JT, he is not a third line centre, maybe 4th.

But also not surprising. I think they have a call up limit and they maybe used 2 or even 3 of the 5 spots available already. So a guy like Yager, think Chevy in his PC mentioned Tyrel Bauer who isn’t nhl calibre maybe getting a chance but yeah. I’m not sure other than maybe putting the 2 quick wingers (Rosen and lambert) with Barron maybe but Koepke and Barron work well together. Them and walker dueher were tremendous together. Lowry? Slow. Toews? Slow. I mean. Yeah. Not much they can change. They need a 2 center and they currently don’t have that. Perfetti is a natural center so Rosen Perfetti lambert might be fun but Arniel would rather play defensive veterans in the top 6. Chevy may have to pull some of the vets for injury related purposes soon. Not yet but soon. Until they are officially eliminated they won’t but once they are bet Lowry and a few others are shut down.

I guess I feel ok knowing that it wasn’t the bombers who developed dru brown, it was Zach so I think if you have the guy, who wants to learn and is willing to put in the work, maybe he can do it again. Thorne might be that guy. He’s young and he wanted to come up here. Oh he just retired cuz he got drafted to Iran. Well. He didn’t. But just saying. He wanted to come here so that probably matters a bit. I think it does. He wanted to come here and Canadian QB Elgersma don’t right now. That’s just yup.

Most nfl teams don’t have a quality number 2 guy right now so next to impossible? No but just about. Gotta find a kid who truly wants it. A guy who wants to take over from Zach. To me this would be Elgersmas best shot to come up and sign now but he’s unproven also but… if you can get him signed, you do it. I’m not signing any of the below average vets.

So just that I’m clear it seems to be implied here that it’s next to impossible in this current football climate to uncover/find a quality QB2 that WBB’s management and coaching staff would be confident in running our offense this coming season if ZC is unable to do for whatever reason?

Are we sleeping on Peyton Thorne a bit? Sounds like he wanted to come up to play because of talking to Kent Austin. I’m just saying, that’s an interesting intangible. He’s a young guy also so maybe there’s something there. Not saying he’s gonna be a star or stud out of camp just sounds like he’s coming here cuz he truly wants it and in my opinion, that’s a good sign. Should learn lots as Zach is apparently a solid mentor. I’m also not sure ncaa success or lack of matters when it comes to the cfl. I think a guy needs to want it and yeah sounds like that kid does. It’s about learning the nuances and quirks. If a guy can pick those up and get solid vet mentoring, who knows there.

Talent is relative. Where do you think the talent at every position is coming from?

No, why is it bad that we can't?

No changes to the lineup is a bit frustrating.

Braylon Addison had over 800 yards receiving. Same with Rhymes up at around 900 yards himself. Which meant both players were positive contributors to their offensive teams. However for some reason, CFL teams just didn't want to pony up for older veterans. Even if they can still play. They still were decent players. I think their numbers show that they may still be playing if they hadn't signed 1 year deals. I believe we'd have been pretty excited had Rhymes signed here for 2026. At least, I would have been. He'd have made a big target for Zach. he'd have helped us for sure. Instead, he was forced to retire.

Why is it we can't develop any young qbs? Or why should we care? Please clarify, thanks.

It takes time for most QBs to catch onto our game. You won't succeed with a numbers game. Reps are crucial to learn our game. The problem is that nearly all the QBs brought in league wide have the physical tools to succeed. It really is a matter of picking up our game, intangibles, and the individual QBs drive to succeed in our league. None of that is readily apparent after throwing a few footballs in practice. Some guys (Dominique Davis for eg) look absolutely dynamite in practice but can't get it to translate when the lights are on. Other guys look like hot garbage in practice but are able to to turn that light switch on in games. It is extremely hard to determine what guy will do what. Not to mention, as Brendan Taman used to say, for every guy you get to sign a contract up here there are 9 others that have turned you down. CFL scouts for the most part just pick the guys with the toolbox, and that seem the most enthusiastic to come up here and play.

I get that the list of American college QB's, and some NFL QB's, that came to the CFL and failed is long. However, there are so many QB's that play at the D1 and D2 level in the US that will never play in the NFL, I'm a bit baffled as to why it's been so difficult for the Bombers to find anyone talented. Yes, many don't want to play in Canada. Yes, there is an adjustment to the CFL game. But how about just bring in more? Really work on bringing some neg listers, early NFL cuts, ones who didn't get drafted. Instead of 3 in camp, bring in 8. Yes ... they won't get enough reps ... but your chances of one having CFL talent at least increase if you bring in some more. Or, just keep doing the same thing we've been doing, get the same results.

If we start the season with a qb2 that the head coach and oc have no faith/confidence to have him run the offence if ZC can’t, big fail.

His ancestors channel through him. His weird takes are beyond his control.

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I'd bring him in only after TC. If they end up having zero confidence in any of the guys they bring to camp, then sure...go and get him. But otherwise, I think it would be a waste

I know a lot of fans are saying that we shouldn't consider MBT...I have qualms about it BUT he seems to be one of the only options we have, to bring in as a back-up in case Zack can't go...IF he can park his 'weird takes' at the door and keep them to himself, he would/could be one of our options...He has a lot of CFL experience and can still sling the rock effectively...With our revamped receiving corps he could be very effective...When we have painted ourselves into a corner like we have in the qb dept. I would say our avenues have become very narrow...

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