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Two weeks ago? What does that have to do with your terrible take on thinking a guy throwing 9 passes in pre season is more then enough to show that he's a superior player. Did you not see how awesome Pigromes was a few years back in pre season?

he wont be like that in 2026 tho....may even be much better late this yr.....Everyone thinks he is what he is post surgery and thats not the case...especially 11 months removed....Judgment cant really be passed until a full camp next yr....actual weapons to throw to...and an OC that has half a brain.....ZC not so much tho...we have seen his slide now for 3 yrs...and he aint getting younger

ouch we know how this team works tho...a vet if signed before the season is basically locked up...also gauranteed to be starting in said position...I think if we can get assets for him this yr that will help us this yr...and next...we take that shot...especially if we are wallowing in 4th place yeah...I think we are stuck in a bad spot to be honest.....very bad foresight 2 yrs ago

So our options for 2026 are what: A declining Collaros at potentially high QB 1 $ Streveler who is limited as a passer and potentially no longer has the mobility he once had A youngster like Powell Older vet such as MBT or Fajardo I mean if it was me I'd go Powell because I like potential and upside.

its a one yr deal right?...so I think to have a guarantee portion it needs to be 3 yr deal....but I could be wrong

THATS what I said...Walters is involved in the National scouting...ie....Canadian draft G.M's dont build the roster...they bring in the players but DONT tell HC who to cut/retain....if thats happening your in real trouble as a franchise. So how is it telling y=that Osh keeps guysyr after yr rather than replacing them...If it's tellung anything it's saying Osh isnt held accountable to a certain degree Fact of the matter from HC up we been bumbling and stumbling and that combo has been a huge reason of our erosion and total lack of deoth and top line talent...and usually more times than not the HC is expunged before anyone.....or they clean house top to bottom....I think we need to change one of the pieces and see if that changes things for the better first....then go from there

And here we are with what as the other options? A guy who is so busted up he can barely fall forward on a wedge play these days?

Except we don't know the details for 2026 or whether there is significant guaranteed money etc. As far as 2025 if a 1/3 was paid upfront that still leaves $400K over the last 12 games. That's still not something any team will want. It will also need a season ending injury to VAJ, Rourke or Harris to have interest. I don't see that as an easy flip, nor do I see interest even if there is a season ending injury. Here we are suggesting Collaros is " done " but other teams will be happy to get him and his giant contract?

"locked up" can be used very loosely until we know there is guaranteed money. No guarantee leaves a lot of options open.

When's the last time you watched a football game?

The rookie's longest pass was 12 yards. Pre season doesn't tell the full story but if you are going to use it as a determining factor then Wilson blew him away. Two seasons ago Pigromes looked like the next Doug Flutie in pre season and where is he today? Dru Brown looked like crap in that same pre season and now he is a desired starter. Real game time is significantly more important then pre season.

Not I.

A reminder that they extended him for next season as well! The reason I want him gone is so that we do have money to spend next season on a starting QB OR other impact players. Zach has been playing at the bottom level of the starters for 2 seasons in a row. Why would we pay a premium for a 3rd straight year when you can start Strev or almost any other guy and get similar results at a much lower price? For the record Tre Ford and Jake Maier have better QB ratings then Zach this and last season despite playing on crappier teams.

Ummm.... https://3downnation.com/2025/05/23/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-qb-zach-collaros-to-contract-extension-through-2026/ More then likely it's 600+. I highly doubt he is taking a pay cut.

Unfortunately, the round of musical chairs has ended at qb in the cfl, and we are left in a bad spot. I think Edmonton is the only team in the league as un sure of its qbing present/future. I don’t think any other team in the league would want to be in our position. That’s why I think our best chance at a shake up is trading Chris. If you can get a Powell, mbt, etc back up and deal with hogan that’s the best shot we’ve got. I like Strev and I think he could give us a solid offence if built around properly. But we don’t have any of the building blocks or system. I don’t think we are just in trouble this year at qb either. I don’t see any one we could get in the offseason that is a real qb1. I think we are going to be looking at guys like arbuckle for a while. In this era of the cfl, you can’t really expect the better teams to develop your next wave of QBs like we used to. They’d develop em, and if they didn’t take starting spots bad teams would give them a chance. The pipeline is soo dry that’s an extreme rarity now. It only gets worse with us being very hesitant to pull starters and give young guys a shot even in blow outs. what do you think changes next year? We already locked him up. We should be looking at him but unless we see a mafia shake up I don’t think that happens.

From the directory of Sisu.... this could be very entertaining.

It's a sad situation overall. Was there a single person in the GDT that thought we were going to hold for the win after Sergio hit that kick? Even one?

Awesome!

Everyone clamoring for a different QB. Who?

I meant this year. There is absolutely no way he's leaving this year. Next year is a different story.

You just said he isn't going to be cut. So realistically, all his dollars are guaranteed. It sounded like they ran back the terms from this year of his deal. So I would expect 600k, with an off season roster bonus in the 100k range.

Baloney...Walters definitely is very involved in NAT scouting and your argument that O'Shea has too much say in player retention is more telling about the quality of Walters job than O'Shea's. Talent level of any roster is 100% on the GM. That is not even debateable. GMs build the roster, and coaches coach the roster that is assembled. If Walters is listening to O'Shea too much then that is on him. It's his job to assemble the talent not Osh's. Bottom line. Been my argument here for the past 2 years, but round and around we go. Everyone was willing to overlook the fact we are hemorraghing talent because MOS apparently likes Jake Thomas. Still way too many people here blaming roster usage for our record. It's not optimal to be sure but if we are going to have a 2 year conversation and calls for dismissal of anyone, it should be the GM and even that I don't agree with.

There have been no numbers released on Collaros's contract for next year. Seeing as he's finishing up a 3 year deal where he made 600k per year, its hard to see it being lower than that. Given his play last season and this season, that is too high. Given what other QBs (Adams, Harris, Brown, Mitchell) are making its way to high. If he got down to 450k, that would be in line with Adams and Harris but truthfully, a little too high imo. If its for 375k like Mitchell is making this year, I'd be more ok with it. My speculation is that his 2026 salary is for 600k though.

The biggest factor imo is the guaranteed money. I don't care how much it's for as long as there is basically zero guarantees behind it.