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"If Hogan comes back as OC for sure we lose"...me (a season ticket holder). I was wary when he was announced as the new OC but, at the time, trusted that the Bombers' tall foreheads knew what they were doing. However, I'm extremely disappointed in Hogan, not so much that he was a "rookie" but, to my eye, because he didn't improve over the course of the season.

If Hogan comes back as OC for sure we lose Brady. That would be massive & the biggest red flag I see. Hogan has to go. But will our stubborn HC admit he was wrong & actually do it? Will his ego trump what's best for the team?

Who was that rookie Defensive End I believe from Florida or Florida State who sacked Bethel-Thompson a few times in our last home game? I think he's guaranteed 1/3 of his salary so he'll be around. I'm one of the few here who still believe in Zach. He was handcuffed by a subpar reciving group, old & slow OL & a **** up of an OC in Hogan. I'd like to see what he'd do with a revamped line, better receivers & JJ calling the plays.

How can you say Thomas os not the problem but the Defensive Line sucks? Thomas plays on the DL in a 3 man front & gets destroyed. Playng his ass off means nothing if he loses on most plays. You think getting blown out doesn't affect the play of that line, think again. We have a DC who dresses ten linebackers & then plays a 3 man front. There is no pressure. QBs can just sit there & pick their targets. Give the secondary some credit as I think they have played well. What a goofy base defense. Jordan Younge must love Cheetos.

I just can't imagine Jake Thomas coming back again but if Osh is still here, I wouldn't be surprised if he did & started again. It's a joke. Playing Thomas on a 3 man front is like watching a boat get swept out to sea in Hurricane Melissa. We could have bolstered the DL which would have made a huge difference. There were free agent OL out there. None signed. Claimed we didn't have the money. As far as recruiting goes, I think we did fine but the Head Coach plays his favourites. Young guys barely get a chance.

Woodbey. Vaval. Am I missing anyone? Cuz that’s it for guys from this camp who made an impact. 2 guys. Pretty brutal. Surely I’m missing someone but I’m not am I? Maybe you can say vanterpool also. So 3 guys. That’s not very good. Scouting is a problem. Yes got potential for an end and D tackle but 3 guys stepping up isn’t lots.

Picks this week need to be in by Sat @ 2PM Standings below:

Very interesting comparison.... Dave Ritchie was notorious for sticking with his good old boys at all costs and Charles Roberts had to basically walk away from the team for them to give him the chance... and as you said, he became one of the teams all time best.

“(In training camp) we repped a lot of things that we didn’t rep during the season. I didn’t get a lot of reps with the guys who were playing. My situation put us in jeopardy there with the suspension and trying to manage that. I think it’s getting reps — reps with the players, reps with what concepts do we like? On second-and-six, second-and-five with the game on the line, what are we going to call because we know we can execute the play? I don’t know if we had that this year, so getting good at something, I think, matters https://3downnation.com/2025/11/02/zach-collaros-frustrated-by-2025-season-but-plans-to-play-for-winnipeg-blue-bombers-in-2026/ That all tracks, but boy is that a pile of red flags. No wonder our go tos ended up being old holdovers from lapo/buck and why zach couldn’t build a repoire with any one this year. And yeah as has been said ad nauseam, the concepts we ran were trash.

This is what he said so others don't have to look it up: The article also said: and Collaros also said: Sounds like Collaros believes the Bombers has a sub-standard offensive coordinator. I think he fails to recognize the old boys he names, and you could include Collaros in that group, are simply not as good as they were 5 years ago and the Bombers haven't brought in new guys to be the stars while these guys age out.

I mean who the **** cares? Teammate doesn't throw his buddies under the bus. The only say he should have on personnel is how he feels about certain receivers and just advisory for the personnel guys in free agency or deciding whether to bring guys back. Doesn't seem like they've done him that courtesy lately based on what's on our roster today.

The highly rated college thing is kind of joke. He was on a watchlist for an award for centres that like 50 guys were on. There's only 300 NCAA teams. Coaches send in noms. 1 in 6 guys who started at centre in FBS that season were on that list. 9/10 of them never played pro football. No but mostly because there's no one in camp pushing. Again...who is being blocked here? All the guys who can play got on to roster and a lot of them took big roles as the season went on. The talent level in our training camps has been an absolute joke. Receiver and DL are real flash points IMO. Charles Roberts didn't start a game at tailback until the East Final of his rookie year. Arguably the best tailback in Bomber history. Eric Blount and Troy Mills blocked him I guess. People want to dress a team full of rookies and expect to win? No mostly people get disappointed when they actually see the guys they are hyping. Few live up to it.

Sad. Zachs interview today. Delusional the guys he mentioned who he wants back are all guys who are finished.

on on doug was laughing at thomas on a play where he was in a 2 point stance, barely got out of his stance by the time the ball got out and still got turned and tossed on his butt. his scheme carried us from bottom of the standings to a home play off game last year. He’s shown some great ability to draw up plays that get pressure out of blitzes, but you just can’t blitz your way to victory in the cfl. you need to be able to disrupt the passing game with 4-5. I want to see what he can do with a good dl

It better be a dog fight, but if this coaching staff is back, it won’t be. Totally agree about the complacency.

not like we have a ton of horses to pair him with or protect him. Or some great farm to sell. That said, we need to do some thing and options are very few. His previous deals had very high guaranteed floors too.

Re Zach: Under contract means whatever guaranteed money he has is sunk, but it doesn't mean we have to or even should keep him. He's way overpaid for his performance.

Another option: do the team a solid by taking a pay cut so they can spend in FA & get him some help.

His options are: retire, ask for a trade or play for the Bombers. I do not know who would be interested enough in him to offer a trade of value.

I could go out there and try my hardest, does that mean I should have a spot? Thomas plays nearly every god damned snap and even at his peak he was just a depth guy. Huge problem. Willie is problem too because he doesn't put in the effort. They both need to be gone next year IMO.

Jake getting contributing 9 tackles in 18 games despite playing a large percentage of snaps isn't an issue? Disagree. I agree that Willie also doesn't contribute enough for the paycheck he's getting. On the D, I get that JY's scheme is different but is it one that is going to work?

I wonder what Zach options are? Under contract for next year. Is he planning to retire? Ask for a trade? Agree with @wbbfan, don't want to trade Zach and Elgersma. Agree with @Noeller on the injury concern with Brown.

Bust his ass still resulted in being manhandled on practically every play. Busting one’s ass means nothing if it doesn’t produce anything which is true for any job. And this isn’t an either/or, it’s both, as in both need to go.

Count me out for trading Elgersma. He's the only guy that is really exciting me as a future QB for us. We need to go all in on rebuilding our o line and then pass the torch to Elgersma.

I love Dru Brown but his injuries are piling up, and I wouldn't be selling the farm for him at this point...