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He was also pretty short lived as head coach... but yeah Tim Burke had some truly lifeless performances.

Osh coaches like he would have wanted to be coached, and I have this big suspicion that osh wouldn't have appreciated a coach playing a young guy ahead of him. So if you're being an osh type player you're bullet proof. Osh never retired, that says it all. He's got blinders when it comes to long in the tooth veterans who made up the core of the teams best years. Guys like Wally Buono erred on the side of replacing guys too soon as opposed to too late. Osh is the opposite.

Yea..what coach plays rookies ahead of Vets? Not many unless they are rebuilding or have to because of injuries...or the rookie forces them to out of sheer talent.

Tim Burke gets more leash because he was an incredible DC and was really the only reason we had Swaggerville in 2011...

I think it's more about guys that have earned his and Youngers trust at this point. Now I know you're going to say "well they can't earn trust if they don't play!" but my personal belief right now is that Osh has guys he trusts to get the job done and that's why he's so loyal to certain ones.

I feel like Tim Burke should get down on his knees daily and thank God that Reinbold and Kelly exist otherwise he would take way more heat.

MOS being a former Cdn linebacker himself perhaps may have a better idea where these young guys are right now? I just don't see why he would intentionally hold back CDN players and at the same time intentionally ignore rules that would help him dress more starting Americans? Which one is it? Is Mos not always criticized for being pro-Canadian?

Yeah Jim Daley was a real low point which is why despite O'Shea's flaws I've still got time for him because he won't get down to that level.

Brady!

How soon we forget Tim Burke For as much as we might complain about the roster and O'Shea being stubbornly set in his ways, we have won a **** tonne of games and have enjoyed a fun ride these last number of years.

Bo Levi Mitchell's first ever start was against the Bombers in 2013. 22/25 for 376 yards, 3 TD 0 INT. I'll never forget that one.

Defensive line, linebacker was only done due to signifcant injury to Bighill last year, offensive line... and it's not that development time was wasted on specific people, it was a lack of future planning in those areas.

Yeah Maas had stupid completions in a row twice! Sad thing is Marcus Howell was probably one of the better dbs dressed in those days.

Some people choose to I'll say this about Tui....He was WIDE open last game.

I think that was more than one game... They were in for a a few games. I believe that's the time when we basically had no DC, and Doug Brown said they were playing sandlot and making it up on the field.

Yup very hard to watch when a third string inexperienced rookie has the time to comfortably go thru his reads.

That was the Marcus Howell+Geoff Drover secondary game was it not? Horrible Times.

I just really hope our D can create pressure and the secondary doesn’t give a massive cushion. I can’t stand watching us allow an inexperienced QB sit back and get comfortable making easy throws.

I believe it was 2005... I can vividly remember listening to CJOB in the house I was living in at the time in Dauphin.... I remember pacing around the living room.

how the hell is Shawn Lemon still in the league? I hate how TSN won't even bring up that the dude was suspended for gambling on CFL games. Sports is in so deep with the gambling biz, it's ******* vile. Ok, bitching aside, go bombers!

22 straight completions I think

I know exactly where I was and what I was doing when that happened. Probably the all time worst Bombers defense in my lifetime... Bob Irving sounded so displeased calling that game...

Yes and look at how he has produced....oh wait....14.5 yds per game says we had a reason for leaving him off. Mitchell is just another really bad offseason signing by Walters...but at least he was one that made it through camp. Got any, you know, names? Because I'm not seeing any young NAT DTs being left off the roster. I'd love for JT, Shmek, and Korny to be replaced by young NAT DT studs. Give Walters a call, the cupboards are bare. It was either him or Zack Davis from the Rifles as NAT DT insurance. Can't blame the coaches for their choice of Korny....can absolutely blame Walters for putting the coaches in a no win situation though. I know you are critical of Walters as well, just pointing out that a lot of what we are seeing stems from a very poor past 2 offseasons by our GM. In a Grey Cup hosting year, his best signing was Sterns. Let that sink in.

You do realize that you don't necessarily draft guys for immediate insertion into the lineup right? Sure they could take the 5 or so snaps that Gauthier has had this year, but is this really the kind of development you are talking about? What if these rookies cost us games? Is that a smart development strategy? This isn't hockey where you have 82 games a year with many of them meaningless to get guys some time. We are not in a position in the standings to be developing rookies in game. Any rookie that is going to get regular playing time will have to do so by being better than the person they are replacing or through necessity. It's kind of silly to be pining for rookie playing time when we are currently playing for our playoff lives. The goal right now is to win, not develop players for next year. Won't cost us games? We just won/lost our last 2 games by FGs. A rookie making a rookie mistake can definitely cost us a game. Would I like to see our young guys get some time when a game is out of reach? yep. We are likely playing tightly contested games for the majority of this season though. What roles have we been poor at turning over? Who are the guys we wasted development time on? Name them.

Didn’t Maas nail us once with a 90% passing game?