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Thomas has true grit and staying power and was clearly the reason he hung around so long...He certainly wasn't the most talented at his position BUT maybe he can translate some of that desire and grit into some of our younger more talented D line players....It could be what some of them need to put them into a highly successful future ...We'll see ....I say give JT a shot ......

Agree on that as well. I don't care what other teams do and the mistakes they make. BC is a poor example. They went 200k over the SMS and lost 2 draft picks.

Totally agree, the biggest factor isnt what Jake haters here think, its who the players respect and listen to

Yea...and somehow we are holding that against him and using it as a knock on him personally. I have heard a lot of chatter over the years that suggest that Jake was VERY good in the film room. Like a lot ...and I'm surprised you haven't. As long as Younger is our DC, the DL is not ever going to re-invent the wheel around here. I already did. Ryan Dinwiddie. Hell, Corey Mace even...he was about the same player as Jake Thomas talent wise. There are tons really. Any other sport? Pretty much every NHL coach almost.

I never even had an issue with Jake as a player, in terms of talent... He was just used far too much in later years. In his younger days he was more than serviceable. In more recent years he was fine in a limited capacity but Prime Doug Brown minutes was asking way too much.

Bill Belichick

Lots of examples of this. Most coaches played at least in the minor leagues.

https://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/top-15-horrible-athletes-who-made-great-coaches/

Can this team grow a pair of balls and cut loose guys. Hugely disappointed in this bull crap. Sign Jake + Hogan to fill the Buzz and Boomer costumes if you don't have the balls to say "good bye". Massive steps back on this club. I'm at the point of cleaning house at the top. Have we ever heard anything remotely that suggested that Jake Thomas was big in the film room and while limited on physical abilities he had the brains and the ability to dissect plays on the field. Come on now this is a joke. Hogan f'd up big time... soooo we bring him back? A complete joke.

Are you suggesting that other teams have not over paid for free agents? Have we not had many discussions on here for how insane some contracts have been thrown around the league and yet those teams are able to sign multiple free agents. Didn't BC have Rourke + Adams and was still able to purchase more players?

Problem player might not have been the correct term - biggest liability is probably more suitable. My issue isn't with Jake the person, it's the player that never showed a ton of skill (even in his younger days) now being responsible for coaching up others in an area that we desperately need help. He absolutely may turn out to be a great coach but let's not act like he was some great superstar back in the day and he's just no longer the player he once was. The drop-off from prime Jake and 2025 Jake is not that severe and he was closer to his prime 7 years ago when we first tried to move on from him. The fact that he lasted 13 years is a testament to his dedication but also a damnation of our scouting/drafting.

Cite one example in football (or any other sport) where a poor player went on to become a great coach.

Honestly Booch has hated Jake Thomas for years, even when he was a serviceable backup player. Just hates guys with limited athletic ability who succeed anyway. I say give Jake a chance in this role and see how he does with it.

JT...has bled blue for a long time....will he make a good coach...who knows..hopefully he will. Congrats to him on a new position... Hogan staying on is meh to me, but going back to RB coach, is probably a much better fit for him As to next signing, I am hopeful it's Nuefeld

oh I agree...100 percent.....but my point is...is this the best we could have done??....thats an unequivocal hell no!....Thomas prob still wanted to play but Walter's may have taken that option away from Osh....so Osh offered him this....we shall see tho how it turns out....but if the DL improves it will be from players brought in and not some new crazy moves JT came up with never seen before to catch olines off-guard, and taught them to the guys, or some funky new scheme to revolutionize how dlines play in pro football 😁

You might be right, you might be wrong. None of us can know with any certainty right now as to how well JT can do. Anybody saying they know for sure he will fail or succeed is straight up showing bias. Hey, if the DL shows no improvement I'll call for his head. Bombers first....always. What I won't do is not give him a chance. Maybe he is exactly the coach we need and this turns out to be a great hire. Right now that is as feasible as him failing. Every coach who ever becomes a coach is because someone saw something in them and took a chance. Let's give him that chance too before declaring this a poor hire. He's off the field now....no reason to dislike him anymore.

a group of godplayers can make a lousy coach look good, just as much as lousy players can make a good coach look bad....I know you like to defend Osh and challenge me, but in a pivitol yr for us and one where we may need a lot to go right to get us on track again...dumb move....and I sute there were better options...heck I know there were... Patterson choose to retire...and was known actually during the season it was his last...even further shows that we had a long time to bat names around...and this was best we came up with

That would go under the category of weird professional football career.

Tell that to Patterson. You guys keep suggesting that OSH never moves on from anyone, until he does and then pretend it didn't happen. Hogan may have been a mental health cheerleader but it worked and quite frankly BO needs it. McManus is the best for sure. We can dream.

he also had the worst collection of guys in league to work with too the last few yrs....so hard to say...I do know Patterson is a well respected and experienced coach both sides of the border...But he chose to retire so was out of our hands ....he did quite well in 2021 as the coach when we had talent to utilize.....Grey Cup ring and dominate defence cant be argued there I agree with SANKEY...More holes in his game than T.Jones and yes as bad as T.Jones is in space he way better than Sankey....so why pay Sankey premium cash when we can get the same for less....Now if we can grab McManus tho....you do that

I had a dream (nightmare) that JT came out fully dressed with player/coach on his nameplate. 🙂 Good luck JT. Hope you find your calling with this.

Player quality does not equate to coach quality. There is no correlation whatsoever. Quit trying to sell that as a reason to criticize this move. One has nothing to do with the other.

problem position I think he meant....and choosing the worst, least skilled of the bunch to lead the group now as a coach....effort and trying hard to execute even tho you aren't good enough shouldnt equate to being a coach....right off your last snap...maybe perenial league all-star who had exceptional skill...."and tried hard" But none the less this move isnt gonna kill the season....but is a weak typical move and reeks of an Osh thing and still inability to let guys go and make tough decisions....Especially with Hogan...who was basically a mental health cher leader for BO more than actually showed him anything...No reason we couldnt have moved on....just another example of rewarding failure