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[citation needed] We are talking about an Athletic Therapist... not an orthopedic surgeon or anything too right? His job is to do non-invasive tests and then refer him to specialists. It's not going to be malpractice if he goes 'his knee is ******' and the specialist agrees, and the team allows him to trot himself out there in a huge ass knee brace to approximate the support a functioning ACL would give him. It might rise to the level of malpractice he is failed to (or incorrectly gave) give the Lachman test, and then sent him back out there with a couple strips of KT Tape or something... but obviously there was a plan, go on the 6 game, attempt to rehab, go out there in a brace and give it your best shot. Some choice quotes about this https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2025/09/05/schoens-2025-campaign-ends https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/blue-bombers-wr-dalton-schoen-out-for-season-with-torn-acl/ But I think this argument is starting to miss the forest for the trees... what is absolutely fact is that going into a crucial home-and-home series against your biggest rival, immediately after a game where your backup QB (who also was less than 1 year removed from ACL surgery) had to take significant snaps at receiver, they decided the best thing for the WR corps was trotting out someone they KNEW only had one good knee... it was mostly just dumb luck that he made it all the way to the end of the game or else we would have been seeing more of Streveler WR4 again.

would they not have said partially torn then? If it was partial... And he would have consulted with the physician first....not the AT.... You can sure....rehab a partially torn one minimally....and with success as a non-athlete....but without surgery the risk to fully tearing a given playing sports....joe schmoe on the street can live with it....rest...therapy and drugs can help....but dont fix also.....thing to consider...the recovery time for a partial tear is similar to that of a complete tear for both surgical and non surgical options....so there is that too, and no way shape or form did he accumulate 10 to 12 months of rehab on the 6 game (generally the timeframe to get back on field....not necessarily back to where you were) ....and why I say either way....there was no way any "rehab" was beneficial enough to allow him to play and was just postponing the inevitable....surgery and 12 months of rehab...and was stupid....not well thought out and pointless...as we saw where is the literature regarding our therapist as most respected in Canada....curious....not saying he's not good...as he is and I have worked with him so know all about him...but I have never heard that said anywhere but here

show me your receipts...I dont recall an instance where is was way out in loony tunes land yeah...when there is scheme u=issues....roster deficiencies...tackling issues....discipline issues....maybe an extra day at the job working on them us helpful?....call my crazy but does that matter tho?

No, it's ok to trash him as a first reaction. There's probably something he deserves it for.

Has any other team in the league run four practices on a game week?

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Ok I sort of know what you are saying regarding Suits but what is Straight Fire? As for practice I would suggest the Bombers practice as much as possible as they sort of are Not Very Good!!

Like how Suits is terrible? How Straight Fire stinks?

There are plenty of more interesting things to complain about!

Partially torn is a torn ACL and is how it is commonly reported as simply a torn ACL. Did any of them say completely torn? Same thing. What was reported was that he had a torn ACL. Severity of the tear was not reported. What I do know is that you cannot rehab a torn ACL. It's impossible and Schoen was trying to rehab his after consulting with Couture about his options. Torn ACL has no options, it's surgery. So while I have nothing saying it was partially torn, you guys cannot point me to one single shred of evidence saying completely torn. Therefore, I will assume partially torn which you can rehab, and that our 23 year lead athletic therapist and one of the most respected athletic therapists in Canada knew his ****. You guys are literally accusing him of malpractice.

I completely agree with the bolded and was only responding to the notion that Couture be investigated for letting Schoen play. Until you want to give us something more tangible then a "horses mouth that cannot be named" I will choose to give Couture the benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying you are lying, or even that you are wrong, because I don't know for sure I am not the Bomber's lead athletic therapist. He would know, Schoen would know, the Bombers coaching staff would know. Everything else is 3rd/4th hand information and is not reliable. When we are making accusations about a 23 year athletic therapists professional conduct we should back it up by more than a "horses mouth". These are serious allegations. Sometimes as fans we want to **** on our team so bad when they are shitting on us that we can put innocent people in the crosshairs by slandering or libeling them. I am more likely to believe that this is the case here. I don't for one second think that our athletic therapist would have put his license on the line by clearing Schoen to play with a completely torn ACL.

Probably not, but when the team sucks, they should probably take advantage of every practice opportunity.

This was my only point... There's enough to complain about without becoming total lunatics.

Jesus Christ. I know the team sucks but do we really need to complain about the practice schedule.

Yea...but it wasn't grey areas or verbiage where you were being corrected.

Sms is fluid and been some deviations...and no...its not all black and white..and even some of the verbiage is gray af

Regardless...rostering a gimp isnt key to success and is dumb...why handicap your roster He won't provide any...and from what it's worth...let's just say I was rold torn...from the horses mouth...not partially...torn requiring surgery I won't say what horse...but will say several in the stable

Grant won 4 Grey Cups of the 6(?) he coached in his CFL career. Best ever Grey Cup record for a Bombers coach. He certainly deserves the statue. Interesting though, I was listening to some Minnesota fans question why Grant doesn’t merit the same (a statue) outside of US Bank Stadium. The common analysis seemed to be that while Bud was a great coach and led his team to 4 Super Bowls, his team losing all 4 seems to be the reason why it’s not been done yet, whether that’s true or not. Likewise, while Osh has 2 Grey Cups, there has been a considerable drop off in the team’s performance in Grey Cup games and now in the regular season. So much so that many here and possibly in the fan base seem to be calling for him and the management to be replaced as soon as the team can. Time will tell, but if the team starts to flounder next year and in the next few seasons (which to be fair is common in sports), there will definitely be a massive change in sentiment towards our current coach. I can’t see there being any momentum at all in that direction if that occurs.

My dude, you are the only one who is going against what is being reported. Let's see your evidence that it was partially torn. We have one tweet from Tait saying it was torn. We have a sound bite from O'Shea saying yeah he tore it in Calgary. Not one time has the word 'partial' been uttered in the media in regards to Schoen. It follows that we should probably trust the team when they say it was ... torn

Prove it. I've had one and rehabbed by way through it. I have not heard a single shred of legitimate evidence stating it was fully torn. You posted up a tweet by Ed Tait saying his ACL was torn. Guess what? A partial tear is also referred to as a torn ACL. When I had my partial tear the doctor told me I was lucky it was not fully torn because that would require immediate surgery before the ends of the ligament shorten. So, the bullcrap you guys are trying to sell is that Alain Couture in his 23rd year with the Bombers and widely regarded as one of the best athletic therapists in his field, either misdiagnosed Schoen or committed medical malpractice by letting him play on a fully torn ACL. Contrary to the BS that you guys are selling Alain has final say on whether a player plays or not. Not MOS, not the player themselves decides that. Alain Couture is entering his 23rd season with the Winnipeg Football Club in 2025, overseeing the health and well-being of every player on the roster. Couture provides constant updates to the head coach on the health status of every player, and ultimately has the final say on whether they can return to the field after being injured.

Before you trash Noeller about what he can find on the internet you should remember it as well Booch. In the past, you have been corrected many times in regards to the SMS and how it applies. That being said, yea they could practice and should have.

when you have the "" its moot....you know what's required....no need for extra work yup....they will see the errors....maybe now they will see the talent...or lack there of @Noeller can he join the mob now? I was gonna post they could have but glad someone else did for if anything just to not have to see you comment... slsp on an emoji of eye toll....laugh ....the usual stuff you do And maybe think before you speak too....internet is your friend as well and even the most casual fan could have found out the truth we also have a history with extra days off too with osh...

ring of honour sure....no doubt....as soon as he can be eligible Statue....i dunno...Bud Grant was a totally different cat

nobody on the bombers had a partially torn acl this or last yr I not sure why you are so hung up on that

Sort of. You have high ceiling vs high floor guys, and guys like Dru brown will always take polishing before they produce. But High floor guys do exist and are findable. Shea patterson came into the league in 21 and broke out in 24, dolegala was in one year and broke out the next. So they didn't just walk in and produce, but strev has to be able to produce. The mafia has become the Sultans of Stink. Decent, is a very long way from good. We ran a fast passing game back then with a balanced run attack, which helps the OL. Glenn, also had a fast release and elite ability to get the ball out when pressured (shovels, couple alley oops, changing arm angles, once even threw the ball with his off hand.) and blink was very similar. He was constantly met in the back field then would slip out and gain 5-7 yards. That is the most over rated OL in our history imo. They had every thing tailored to them and weren't dominant.