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Maybe...but maybe not. Maybe Eli just wasn't good enough. I know for sure he was terrible in pass pro whenever given reps as a starter. That does not inspire me to make him a FT starter.

In fairness to Logan, he never really got many return chances. I don't know if he is crap or not but I wouldn't base it on the dozen chances he had to return last year. Vaval stole his job and Logan was never really in the mix afterwards.

Ok...so you meant centre only then? Even worse. I was giving you the benefit of doubt because moving to OG is about the only position where Stan should ever line up besides Tackle. Planning on moving Stan to Centre would be a massive mistake by management and coaching of epic proportions. I would fire both if that is the best plan at Centre they can execute. Anyone suggesting that Stan would automatically make a good Centre, I would ask them what evidence they have he can execute snaps effectively. Sorry even to a GOAT OT like Stan this may not be an area he excels. I've never seen any evidence he can snap the ball so why would I ever assume he would easily pick it up. Most guys don't. I completely agree. All this discussion is for nothing. Stan is still rock solid at OT.

Because O'Shea

Mr. Arniel and team didn't get back to me on where they're at with their 'recruiting plan' this season for drafting a top 2026 prospect so maybe this game tonight might provide a few answers.

🕖 1900 📺 TSN3 Last Ten: 3-5-2 @ 4-2-4 Season Series: MIN leads 2-1 Stats: 18-22-5 @ 26-12-9 Streaks: W3 @ L2 Jets projected lineup Kyle Connor -- Mark Scheifele -- Alex Iafallo Cole Perfetti -- Jonathan Toews -- Gabriel Vilardi Nino Niederreiter -- Adam Lowry -- Vladislav Namestnikov Cole Koepke -- Morgan Barron -- Tanner Pearson Josh Morrissey -- Dylan DeMelo Dylan Samberg -- Elias Salomonsson Logan Stanley -- Luke Schenn Connor Hellebuyck Eric Comrie Scratched: Gustav Nyquist, Danny Zhilkin, Isaak Phillips Injured: Haydn Fleury (bruised back), Colin Miller (lower body), Neal Pionk (undisclosed) Wild projected lineup Kirill Kaprizov -- Danila Yurov -- Mats Zuccarello Marcus Johansson -- Ryan Hartman -- Matt Boldy Vladimir Tarasenko -- Ben Jones -- Vinnie Hinostroza Marcus Foligno -- Nico Sturm -- Yakov Trenin Quinn Hughes -- Brock Faber Jake Middleton -- Jared Spurgeon Daemon Hunt -- David Spacek Jesper Wallstedt Filip Gustavsson Scratched: Tyler Pitlick, David Jiricek, Matt Kierstad Injured: Zach Bogosian (lower body), Joel Eriksson Ek (lower body), Jonas Brodin (lower body) Status report Barron returns after missing three games with an upper-body injury. … Defensemen Pionk, Miller and Fleury each is week to week; Pionk was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. ... Eriksson Ek skated alone and with the Wild on Thursday, but the forward will miss his third straight game. ... Bogosian, a defenseman, did not skate and will miss his fifth straight game; each remains day to day. … Brodin is week to week; the defenseman will not travel on Minnesota's upcoming three-game road trip. ... Spacek will make his NHL debut.

Sam Hurl.

Actually ,you lie. I said inside........NEVER once said Guard.

Feels like there's gonna be a bunch of these....

yeah, didn't see much from Logan last year that showed that he was still a CFL returner ... if Vaval is off chasing the NFL, would rather roll a rookie or a FA signing there.

Logan looked like ass when he got into the lineup, whatever his injury was surely impacted him cause prior he was a pretty explosive guy.

Did the same logic apply when Sam Hurl was starting at MLB back in the day? Oshea using his roster in a suboptimal way is not a new phenomenon.... but I feel like we go around and around and around about this all the time.

I'm fine with Logan being cut regardless of what happens with Vaval. Logan looked slow last year in his (granted) few attempts. I don't mind another competition there.

Yeah we in pretty good position there with incubants and recruited guys...and we havnt seen what FA offers...tho like u said...we need to focus on both lines and WR Do u really need to ask with u know who as the coach...cause it could be asked at likely 4 positions at mi imum the last few yrs

JT still wanted to play tho...so not really on his terms...so we threw him a bone essentially As for Stan...he played just fineast yr and if he back he stays where he is...only change i could see is him and Randolph flipping He's earned the right to.come back and compete and show he still has it..and if he doesn't I can see him doing a Miller on the 6 game all yr or on the PR at full salary just in case and be that veteran presence to guide our young tackles and quasi coach All that said...ive seen nothing to indicate he is not still in the top tier of tackles...last yr for a good majority of our offence cant be viewed as for what it appeared...we were facked from day1

I am fine with Logan being cut. I hope this means they know Vaval is back for 2026.

I can understand it due to the bonus, but I hope this means we are confident that Vaval is coming back

I did so only after the OP told me I didn't know anything about football but I get your point that others may not realize this was directed to him and take offense and that was not my intention. Next time I will directly tell him I think he is an idiot and leave it out of subsequent posts on the matter. Also the use of the word stupid you quoted was a direct answer to SF27 who asked me if I thought discussion was stupid.

You do aften use the words stupid, moronic, ridiculous etc when offering up your opinion on other people's opinions, goes back to my previous post when I wrote you write with conviction though this conviction can at times ruffle some feathers if that's your intention. It's not necessarily what you're writing, it's how you're writing it. I offer this unsolicited piece of observation free of charge and even better if you read this while working, you got paid to read it, even better. You're welcome. I exhausted myself just writing this sentence. Time for a nap.

At what point did i say that discussion is stupid? People have their opinions, and we discuss them. I thought that the idea of moving Stan inside as a plan was not very intelligent and discussed my reasons why. Is that Ok with you or are we only to nod and agree with things we don't agree with. I gave my reasons respectfully and the OP decided to get butt hurt and make rude commentary. That's not on me. I explained many times that my issue isn't with Stan playing inside per se, but with it being the plan which I think would be a very shortsighted one that would carry more risk than reward. IF we go through FA, draft, and recruiting and roll snake eyes on anything better than that plan, fine, we do what we gotta do. I would think that to be a pretty big fail by KW and staff tho. We need to do better than moving Stan inside out of convenience. He is unlikely to be any better at age 40 and changing positions than a younger, cheaper OL we can get in FA or recruitment at a lower cost and with far more long term upside. Stan is going down the wrong side of the hill to reinvest in him at a new position and I know that hurts some sensibilities around here but it's just fact. Our very best play as an organization is to find our next generation of OL, let Stan compete for his usual job, and let the chips fall where they may as to whether he still has a year or two in him. If he is still deemed to be our best LT so be it. If not, we need to move on not reposition him. KW needs to have stud OGs and C in camp already. All that has been discussed around here for almost 3 years is how we are holding onto aging players for too long out of loyalty. I am suggesting that doing so with Stan would just be continuing the stupidity and everyone who vehemently argued that MOS and KW are too loyal suddenly get in an uproar. I am legitimately confused by this inconsistency. The guy is 40, its not the time for him to reinvent his career.

It's called a discussion. You know, we come here to talk about the Bombers. Is that okay with you or do you think that's stupid, too?

That's my worry about Eli. We've seen guys with less talent start over others for a hand full of games...if not entire seasons. But usually if both are still around there is a switch starting the next year. Eli has been here for 5 or 6 seasons now...? That's hard to over look. However, he has also been very good as the 6th man. So there's that to consider as well.

Yes fans on this discussion board and thank goodness for that because it would be awfully boring around here if not.

That was not what was said in the post I originally responded to. So don't say "we" didn't say. It was said. The original post was that the Bombers should plan to move him inside to try get a few extra years out of him. That was the post I took issue with. I have no trouble with Stan moving inside in an emergency or should in season circumstances dictate, I just think it would be stupid if that was our plan in January of the offseason. What we should be planning is getting our hands on a bonafide centre and any interior OL we may need this offseason without having Stan as anything in our plans at the interior more than break glass if needed. Debate by who? The fans. I haven't heard anything to suggest that Marty, Hogan, JJ, or MOS were debating anything of the sort.