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ugh the start of a six game road trip where the games start after 9 curse you annual Disney on Ice tour stops why can't they be scheduled during the all-star break? (yeah I am aware it probably doesn't work that way)

I get the money thing but honestly to lose Brady potentially because Walters is overpaying Collaros would be frustrating. Zach at 450,000, fine. Zach at 600,000 not fine. I'd rather we get rid of Willie if they need to save money.

yeah it’d suck big time, but that’s pro football sadly. No reward to keeping guys around as the peak. Paying a mill to brady zach and demski is unsustainable, maybe even puts us in an un winnable situation next year. And I don’t think zach can go down much. Nor do I think he would. To be fair, it did look to me like jackson was calling the plays. But with some awful playbook install.

Just rewatched the end of the game l because I am an idiiot. Around four and a half minutes left, down by 6. The D gets a huge stop. Vaval gets a decent return, helped by a penalty. Offense takes over at the 45 with just over 4 minutes to go. What do they do? Throw away under pressure with no receivers in the same zip code, and a two yard pass to Wheatfall. Punt. Fire Hogan.

Yeah they weren't pulling off a rescue or a call in space, one of the characters was given a chance to do one of those Millionaire Space visit thingies after the 118 saved the life of the guy (he was swallowed by a whale....I watch the show for the ridiculous incidents that warrant a 9-1-1 call) that owns this company that (I don't really remember what he did all I remember is he offered 5 mil to do this mostly as a publicity stunt to save his companies stocks and things went horribly wrong in space) yeah the multi episode season kick-offs can get out of this world (literally this season)

I'll be disappointed if Brady goes elsewhere.

off season rules in place now, Discussion follows the few active threads.

sure wish we had done a semi competent job of developing mci in the two years we’ve had him, as a rb. Peterson is legit, he isn’t the pile pusher brady is, but if we polished mci he could be a real game changer with that break away speed. I love brady, both the player and the person. He turns 29 next season, and has essentially 1k carries. I’m sure he has 2 strong campaigns left in him, and he can likely be a strong useful player for many years after that. All that said, we paid him 240k a year on this deal. Betts got 266k. So i expect brady to look for a raise, maybe 255k range. I just wouldn’t pay elite dl money to brady. Or two top 5-8 dl in the cfl levels of money. Elite wr money. Especially not with Peterson and mci, who will already be on the roster. If you move on from schoen, wj, and brady, you clear up a massive amount of cash that you could use to fix the dl and wr core. I really wonder how long he will play. I wouldn’t be disappointed if he decided to call it a career after one more 2-3 year deal with a bunch of front loaded bonus cash. Last thing I want to see is what happened to strevy/schoen. And he’s been a serious battering ram.

I'm sorry, but I saw a promo for this show where they are in space or something? And I can't get my head around the fact that anyone actually watches this.

On the one hand - the team's problems this year, and Brady's usage might be a big factor. On the other hand, the dude has all sorts of balls in the air off the field. Wouldn't surprise me if he looked at Toronto or BC as a more convenient place for all of that stuff.

This, via ChrisD.ca, was something... The Winnipeg Blue Bombers star running back is a pending free agent and told media in Tuesday’s end-of-season press conference that the team’s future roster and money will factor into where he plays next year. ”Playing for my hometown, it's been incredible,” said Oliveira, who was drafted by Winnipeg in 2019. “I have nothing but good things to say about my time here. “And would I love to be back? Absolutely, but I think I owe it to myself to sit down with my agent and OTG Sports and to talk to my family and kind of see what the best scenario and situation is for me.”

At least we have a couple of blue-chip NI running backs in reserve.

Nov 16th

He'll follow da money ,like they all do.

Interesting article in the WFP with Brady. I wonder if he's planning to stay or leave.

Reality of modern cfl offences is that you run out of pistol the majority of snaps. They use it with backs in various alignments, but hand offs from under centre and snaps to full shot gun in the regular operation of an offence is pretty rare. The pistol snap is much easier, and really should never be mechanically problematic. The Centre sets the line, is responsible for adjusting the line due to defensive alignment, there’s a lot of nuance to it the same way a mlb/S will set and order the D. In pass pro with out a man head up the C is responsible to pick up A gap blitzes, stunts, twists, and help on rushers who cross face the guard into his gap. Hes also the one who will help the G beside him pick up a dominant rusher for doubles, think how you’d block ceresna or sayles unless the line up in the far gap and don’t go inside after the snap. In the base tite zone scheme we run, it’ll most often be the C or play side guard who goes to the next level. The C basically is always going to double the T over the G when a nose isn’t in play on inside zone run schemes. They double to secure the point of attack, then the guy with leverage goes to the second level taking a lber out of the play and creating a large gap. If the gap gets filled that should then create a new gap for the back which is why vision and the timing pressing the line is always important for our backs. When a nose is in play, on runs it’ll generally be the G doubling with him and skipping to the second level. If its heavy set you would have a second linemen going to the second level, or if you read the end. None of which impacts the Cs role other then making sure every one is on the same page pre snap. In pass pro with an inside rusher, the Centres first job is to wall him off. If the dl breaks the anchor of the ol turning him or pushing him back, you end up un able to switch rushers. If a guy crosses your face and the guard on that side is straight rushing you go shoulder to shoulder and body block the crosser and help on the other T. make that guy have to go all the way around rather than pop off the guard who is engaged with the T. Call outs as adjustments are often silent once the huddle is broke. It’s a lot of the same signal ideas you see in silent cadence. Pointing, even using your arm to adjust a gap alignment. The communication is critical, it’s very nuanced and demands a great deal of trust and understanding of the play book, players both team mates and opposition, alignment etc. The greatest thing I can say about neufeld is he’s been one of the best trainers of centres the field has seen. He took soo many green rookies and molded them into elite Cs. With desjarlais, and peak Neufeld, beside bryant and hardrick, we didn’t need a lot out to our C. And Dls got soo beaten by those guys they didn’t look to exploit C, because we could cover early kola. And our previous Cs were very good at what they did. We got to a point where kola became exposed, and that by using that you can get the Gs out of leverage positions. Now teams run through him. It’s all give and take. If you are under sized but lean and athletic, especially if you have long arms and know how to maximize leverage relative to your height and the opposition it really doesn’t matter if you’re short or tall or 280 or 360. A couple caveats apply, 1) you must be able to lock up and dead lock a line men for 3 ish seconds. 2) you need to be better in using bend. 3) you need quick enough feet and mentally to get into a better position sooner. Size is less important at C and T than G. C you don’t usually play a dt heads up most of the time in the cfl. At T you battle ends in the 250 range. G, you will be facing guys 275-300+ and often really powerful althetic imps or huge canadian bulls. Height can be a negative for the C. With shorter qbs you don’t want some monster eating up passing lanes. taller than 6’3 ish you gotta be smart understand the qb, offence and stay low. In general linemen are more athletic and trimmer than before. 6’ and 275 is fine, if you’re athletic, smart, and cerebral. Going up to 300 is ideal, unless you have some strange build/frame combo.

The answers are obvious... but it's not like we only need to replace JT and things will be instantly better. I'd imagine we have like 10 starters that we need to move on from and like 75% of our "depth players" need to be replaced. This team needs a lot of new faces and new energy. Our depth has been really poor the last 2 seasons.

Not sure if this was mentioned but a few of the guys who ended the year on the PR are being brought back next season. De'Shaan Dixon, Michael (Bucky) Williams, Hunter Poncius & Ben Dooley all signed future active contracts.

yup...with the kolo....if we wanna retain Schmeck...thats the guy they should develop into a center....he prob believe it or not on the whole team...both sides of the ball is quickest off the snap...has a lethal knife push to collapse a line too.... I can't see any reasoning or rality where he is brought back...none....considering what a lot of the read between the lines statements from players....and the outside the ears of the media chatter is a lil more...profane shall I say....If he is brought back Osh better be grilled...questioned and called out on it And Osh's excuse as mentioned...which it is...a real bad one that he "cant draw up play"...like cmon...then you shouldnt be a coach at pro level....there is pretty much a template to run an offence off...its how you add to it...how you use it and the creativity within it...there is only so much....and so many concepts you can use...If a 12 yr running HC has no ability to do coachable things...getta outta here now I said before that I didnt think Osh was a good coach in regards to the teachable stuff and creating things....creating concepts and ability to adjust...let alone see where adjusting is required....Guess he just confirmed it

ZC's presser pretty much said this albeit wrapped in diplomacy.

I mean 3-4 targets down field in the cfl can be very hard to create opportunities with unless you have a very high level specific set of passing concepts and players. Of which we have neither. Yep, no one else goes guard to tackle on a regular basis. kola can’t create drive, so we have to chase a guard or further out. It’s a law excuse tbh. For one of the best defensive players and minds of his era, he should easily be able to help reverse engineer success from what defence do to limit our O, and create successful plays that put defenders in conflict and our skill players in space. Its not even a matter of needing to design new plays, virtually every play type imaginable is already drawn out and available on professional football XnO platforms like pro quick draw go route and tons more. Tons of teams have this stuff in visio and will send basic stuff to people in other leagues, conferences, levels etc. I don’t think you can bring that guy back in any role. Hes totally burnt here

Yup. I would expect that he was on a one year deal to match what was left of OSHs. Hopefully that makes it more likely we just say thanks but he's not welcome back.

No Oilers suck all the time.

Guys who have a history of being top offensive producers get more rope, especially when the Oilers sucking in October is pretty much clockwork at this point.

There is no universe in which Hogan should be brought back as offensive coordinator. He was an unmitigated failure and the offense outside of 1 game was abysmal.