The Unknown Poster Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ducky said: http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-winnipeg-jets-gm-kevin-cheveldayoffs-five-year-tenure I think he did alright with the Good & Bad but the Ugly is a reach. No one ever won the cup signing Stemp and Tlusty. its just a myth that the Jets failed by not keeping those guys. I thin they gambled that the youth movement would allow them to make the playoffs again (or be close enough that Chevy could bring in some help at the deadline) but I also dont think the fact it didnt work out that way is a huge surprise. I think Jets management is able to separate emotion from this and realise competing every year is better than blowing our wad this year. And you cant grade Chevy on the Ladd & Buff situation until it's resolved. Period. Ducky and Mr Dee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Mostly agree on the ugly. Rookies should earn their spots not given them like Copp was this year. Tlusty I could care less about but as we had what seemed like an entire thread already on Frolik, you sign your UFA's by the trade deadline or u trade them. The Jets excuse this year for not making the playoffs will no doubt be the injury to Pavelec but even before the injury we were not a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 so.....doesn't sign an extension, won't waive no trade. Selfish jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 There has been chatter that the owner is personally going to get involved in contract negotiations and that a deal will be made, it will be very interesting because Tampa has a lot of RFA's and UFA's coming up in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Regardless of where Stamkos plays he's going to get paid. So if his heart is set on leaving there isn't anything Tampa can do short of offering points in the framchise the league should disallow no trade clauses when a player is pending UFA. FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 wonder what the ratings are in the USA for country music fest/hockey night in Nashville. lol, just presented Gary Bettman with a guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 It's fun to laugh at the All Star Game but when it's our chance to host we will treat it like a big time event! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I totally didnt watch that all star player chat and country music show (tho to be fair i rarely watch anything of any all star games, all gimmick no substance) I did however enjoy watching the wheat kings play the Oil Kings afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 15 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: It's fun to laugh at the All Star Game but when it's our chance to host we will treat it like a big time event! Can't see it happening in my life time. Best we'll get is the Draft show. Vanc will have gone 30 years without hosting it. WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I've never looked at the host city schedule before. But why wouldn't the draft and all star game rotate among all 30 teams? It should.... rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Get ready to swear! http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-inks-seven-year-contract-extension-1.431203 7 more years of a Canadian team not winning the Cup. Edited January 31, 2016 by FrostyWinnipeg rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 If anyone thinks Bettman is out to get Canadian teams they need counselling. If I'm on the BOD, I ask Bettman to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I think Bettman just signed an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Bettman, otherwise known as "the Big Short", gets an contract extension. hooray... - The Bettman contract extension should mean he'll have more career earnings than any NHL player who played under his watch. #nocommishcap - Chris Cuthbert "Only Bettman could have led the NHL to record revenues in an era where literally every sport has record revenues."- @ DownGoesBrown Edited January 31, 2016 by Mr Dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: If anyone thinks Bettman is out to get Canadian teams they need counselling. If I'm on the BOD, I ask Bettman to stay. Gary Bettman has given the cup to a Canadian team once and even then that was just half year on the job. Bettman pretty much responsible for the death of the hockey in Canada for a decade+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 One has nothing to do with the other. Canadian teams make up 2 of the top 10 spenders and 3 of the top 15. Thats 20%. Canadian teams make up 23% of the teams. Seems about right to me. They seem to compete on dollars spent. It isn't his fault the Canadian teams haven't managed themselves well. Also Vancouver made the finals once as did Calgary. Bad luck they didn't win the cup. But the numbers don't seem that far out of whack. There are just way more American teams than Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 43 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Gary Bettman has given the cup to a Canadian team once and even then that was just half year on the job. Bettman pretty much responsible for the death of the hockey in Canada for a decade+. This is absurd. Just absolutely laughably Absurd. Gary Bettman picks the winner of the cup? Lol right. id go so far as to say Bettman was a leading reason as to how the jets returned. So this idea of Bettman as an evil person out to ruin the game is just completely moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 My biggest beef with Bettman is that he wanted salaries to go up when he became commish and allowed the league to turn into MLB where the team with most money won. Im not saying he's picking the winner. Who saying that? 2x4 to that persons head. I am saying for a good decade+ Canadian teams had NO CHANCE to win and he and a number of USA teams were the reason for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 What ... wait ... did I fall asleep again this year? Awwwww ... what was the score in the NHL AllStar game(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: My biggest beef with Bettman is that he wanted salaries to go up when he became commish and allowed the league to turn into MLB where the team with most money won. Im not saying he's picking the winner. Who saying that? 2x4 to that persons head. I am saying for a good decade+ Canadian teams had NO CHANCE to win and he and a number of USA teams were the reason for that. I'm pretty sure he would have been happy to keep salaries low so the owners could pocket more money. He grew revenues, which is the job of any CEO (or commissioner) which in turn made the NHLPA ask for a bigger piece of the pie. Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver (half the Canadian teams) have always been among the highest paid salaries in the league. It isn't his fault they don't use their cap money wisely. In fact it was Bettman who brought the salary cap in which made it feasible for the Jets to return and levelled the playing field for all teams . If they spend the same as everyone else, it is the GMs fault they don't win, not Bettmans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Rich said: One has nothing to do with the other. Canadian teams make up 2 of the top 10 spenders and 3 of the top 15. Thats 20%. Canadian teams make up 23% of the teams. Seems about right to me. They seem to compete on dollars spent. It isn't his fault the Canadian teams haven't managed themselves well. Also Vancouver made the finals once as did Calgary. Bad luck they didn't win the cup. But the numbers don't seem that far out of whack. There are just way more American teams than Canadian. You forgot Edmonton in 2006 and Ottawa in 2007. Canada's had its chances to win the Cup, we've just choked when we've had the chance. Rich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: My biggest beef with Bettman is that he wanted salaries to go up when he became commish and allowed the league to turn into MLB where the team with most money won. Im not saying he's picking the winner. Who saying that? 2x4 to that persons head. I am saying for a good decade+ Canadian teams had NO CHANCE to win and he and a number of USA teams were the reason for that. You made the point that he only handed the cup to a Canadian team once as if it's his choice or he's happy about it. The Canadian teams being healthy is very important to the NHL and Bettman knows that probably moreso than some of his owners. He was hired to grow revenue and expand the league. Which he did. He grew revenues massively and brought in cost certainty. He also got revenue sharing which the powerful owners didn't want as well as currency mitigation. He moved a big market US team to the smallest market in the league and in Canada. He's got Quebec as a bonafide contender to get a team. The anti Bettman stuff is funny when it comes to fans always hating the commissioner but when people try to have serious discussions about it it's just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Did watch the first game in the allstar thingy but that was it. How Buff do? I still think that if they want it to mean something they should give the winning conference 4/7 Cup games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Did watch the first game in the allstar thingy but that was it. How Buff do? I still think that if they want it to mean something they should give the winning conference 4/7 Cup games. I actually enjoyed it. I also found the skills competition somewhat funny and sort of interesting too. A few of the players hammed it up and made it fun. This was awesome though, icing on the cake: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=800494&navid=DL|NHL|home Kudos to the Nashville fans for selecting John Scott as MVP, and for lustily booing Gary Bettman. http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=941105 It's too bad that the CBC rushed to end their broadcast so quickly. Edited February 1, 2016 by kelownabomberfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Man. Plus 30 to minus 10 hurts but whatever lol. Never watched the game bug good for Scott. As for the suggestion to make the winning team or conference... give them 4 of 7 games in the final. Not gonna happen ever. Would be ridiculous if an 8th place eastern team had home advantage over a 1st place western team. Owners will never allow it. All star game means nothing... always has and always will. Guys aren't going to risk injuries mid season. All star hockey Is not even hockey really. It's a bunch of guys trying to not get hurt. Rightfully so. Imagine buff getting hurt... would be devestating in a game that means nothing and almost seems rigged. It is what it is. It's a showcase of basically rich guys trying to not get hurt. Couldn't imagine a player being injured in a game like this. No contact. No penalties. Not even much effort in reality. Only guys who try a little are the goalies. The rest are just there cuz they have to be. Honestly I think if they stopped doing the all star game and just have the teams 5 or 6 days off instead.... nobody would care that there was no all star game Edited February 1, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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