Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

4 hours ago, Ducky said:

Hutch (we need a goalie for the expansion draft) would get 1m per for two years.

Why do we need a goalie for the expansion draft? 

6 minutes ago, Ducky said:

He has never once complained in public about anything and has ALWAYS stated that he wants to play here.

I don't give players credit for not complaining.

Need a rfa goalie or one under contract to expose.  Pav is ufa. Helle is rfa but they'd keep him. Comrie is rfa but doesn't qualify I don't think. 

You can sign hutch 2 years. Expose him. He won't get picked but regardless sounds like if you can't meet the requirements you lose a player or draft picks. 

1 minute ago, JCon said:

I don't give players credit for not complaining.

I'd agree. That's weak. 99 percent of the jets players haven't.  Only 1 did and he gone 

I think its time to stop thinking about Myers and Enstrom's contracts as 'cap friendly'...

They make the same as Brent Burns and Dougie Hamilton...  you think they are worth that?

We all laughed at Mike Green's $6 million per year...

Enstrom contract is probably haunting the Jets...  It will end up at arbitration and Chevy will get 4.5

Edited June 19, 20169 yr by Floyd

Trouba? arbitration? he isn't eligible for arbitration.

 

Trouba has not warranted that much IMHO.

16 hours ago, Ducky said:

Offers to our RFAs if I were GM...

Lowry gets 2m and 2.25m over two years...Hutch (we need a goalie for the expansion draft) would get 1m per for two years. Armia would be offered 1.5m per for two years. Lipon would be offered 850k per for two years.

Not worried that much about those guys but Lowry might get a look at from Cal.

you mean an offer sheet?

I think Maata and Trouba are a pretty interesting comparison.

Maata just signed 6 years @ just over $4M

Here is a comparison of their stats over the last 2 years.  Note that this also includes Maata's playoff games (only option for more than one year comparison).

http://dobberhockey.com/frozenpool_compare.php?compare[]=3625&compare[]=3614&sent=go&games=YEAR%3AR|P%3A201[34]

This is a look at just last season:

http://dobberhockey.com/frozenpool_compare.php?compare[]=3614&compare[]=3625&sent=go&games=2015-2016%3AR%3A99

Trouba has a slight edge in points but that is mostly due to more ice time and less games missed (staying healthy does count for something ...  point per game they are almost equal).   Trouba has a huge advantage in physicality (hits and blocks) but has also almost double the amount of giveaways.

Contract wise, Maata is a year younger so you would be buying one more year of UFA if you went 6 years for Trouba. That would increase the price (4.5 - 5M?).   The price would go up even more if you went longer term.

11 hours ago, Floyd said:

 

We all laughed at Mike Green's $6 million per year...

Deservedly so. 

The Toronto Maple Leafs acquired goalie Frederik Andersen from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for the 30th overall pick in the upcoming draft and a second round pick in next year's draft.

Well Chevy, Toronto just solved their goaltending problem for a couple years.

Edited June 21, 20169 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

And signed him to a 5 year contract at just over $5m per year. 

2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

The Toronto Maple Leafs acquired goalie Frederik Andersen from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for the 30th overall pick in the upcoming draft and a second round pick in next year's draft.

Well Chevy, Toronto just solved their goaltending problem for a couple years.

Until he proves it he's just another Vessa Toskala or Jonathan Bernier. Anderson is a good goalie but 5 plus a year? For a guy who has played behind a great Anaheim team who will now play behind a very very young Toronto team? Not so sure about that. 

And BTW... Helle is our goalie of the future 

Not to mention Comrie behind him. Our goaltending should be the least of our concerns for the next ten years. 

36 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Until he proves it he's just another Vessa Toskala or Jonathan Bernier. Anderson is a good goalie but 5 plus a year? For a guy who has played behind a great Anaheim team who will now play behind a very very young Toronto team? Not so sure about that. 

And BTW... Helle is our goalie of the future 

Once he gets the 2nd eye installed.

49 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Until he proves it he's just another Vessa Toskala or Jonathan Bernier. Anderson is a good goalie but 5 plus a year? For a guy who has played behind a great Anaheim team who will now play behind a very very young Toronto team? Not so sure about that. 

And BTW... Helle is our goalie of the future 

Toronto fans are all giddy about this tonight, same fans that thought that Bernier should of been chosen to the Olympic team as the 3rd goalie when they traded for him, also with this signing don't know how they will sign Stamkos

 

 

Very interesting.

Least surprising Jets news IMO.

Pretty clear succession plan in the works for Helle and Comrie. Pavs as a backup this season or traded, and Hutch gets exposed on expansion draft.

Only real question is where Hutch plays if Pavs isn't dealt.

Just now, Jimmy Pop said:

Least surprising Jets news IMO.

Pretty clear succession plan in the works for Helle and Comrie. Pavs as a backup this season or traded, and Hutch gets exposed on expansion draft.

Only real question is where Hutch plays if Pavs isn't dealt.

Thats why it's interesting.  Knowing the Jets, they will have Helle start on the Moose.  But given his time in the NHL, he is eligible for the expansion draft, no?  So they have to protect him, leaving Pavs and Hutch exposed.  At $1.5m, I find it difficult to believe the Jets see Hutch as an AHL'er (who would have to clear waivers to go down anyway).  Clearly, the plan is to not re-sign Pavs after this season (and actually since he's going into Free Agency, he wouldnt be expansion draft eligible anyway.

So either they waive Hutch to the Moose and pay him $1.5m to share duties with Comrie or Helle starts on the Moose again.  Or they are planning to trade Pavs and go with Helle/Hutch.

13 hours ago, Goalie said:

Until he proves it he's just another Vessa Toskala or Jonathan Bernier. Anderson is a good goalie but 5 plus a year? For a guy who has played behind a great Anaheim team who will now play behind a very very young Toronto team? Not so sure about that. 

And BTW... Helle is our goalie of the future 

hey, at least Bernier has a hot fiancé.  I know this because of Hockey Wives.

 

Well it was not going down, we know that much.

27 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Well it was not going down, we know that much.

There was talk of the PA not initiating their escalator so as to keep escrow payments lower.  In which case the cap would have stayed the same or dropped slightly.  Someone can do the math if they so desire.