Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

Curtis Glenncross has announced his retirement

Curtis Glenncross has announced his retirement

Had 2 PTO's, its a young players game time to move on with life.

 

Curtis Glenncross has announced his retirement

Had 2 PTO's, its a young players game time to move on with life.

 

There's work to be done on the farm, and Coach Sutter could use the help on the Innisfail Eagles...

Young family and wants to see his kids first moments

 

 

Curtis Glenncross has announced his retirement

Had 2 PTO's, its a young players game time to move on with life.

 

There's work to be done on the farm, and Coach Sutter could use the help on the Innisfail Eagles...

 

 

In retrospect of his career he has stated that looking back he should never of given Calgary a hometown discount  when he was a free agent and can't believe that  at 32 he can't catch on with a team now

How much longer does Bruce Boudreau last in Anaheim?

Read a blog about the Penguins this morning (my #2 team).   I guess talk is ramping up that they need to do something.  They are in a win-now mode (and does anyone else see a major collapse coming down the road?)

 

Seems like the consensus is they need offensive minded D men.  Made me wonder if the talk of Jets scouting Philly and Chicago could be a red herring.  Wouldnt the Pens love to have Buff?

 

Not sure what they'd give up.  Hornqvist's name is out there.

 

Thoughts?

Hornqvist serves no purpose to the Jets.. none what so ever actually... Jets don't need forward help, they need LHD man help... Unless Pouliot or Matta is coming back our way, there is no deal to make with Pittsburgh, they don't have their 2016 1st, it was traded to Toronto plus they really don't have anything that we need unless it's Matta or Pouliot or something like that...

 

What would I want from Pittsburgh, their 2016 1st (but they don't have it) and one of Matta or Pouliot. Not happening.

 

Philly is a team that has what we need, they have LHD prospects like Sanheim and Provorov, that's the team that i ThINK, IF a deal happens, they are the likely candidate... Pittsburgh doesn't... Scouting Chicago, theres really no need to even read in to that too far, Chicago is a central division rival, we play them soon... it's what teams do, check out their opponents, the Philly thing is interesting tho, makes you wonder if theres a deal there to be made.

 

Look at teams that have guys we need, it starts and ends really with LHD prospects or LHD in general... Pittsburgh is not one of those teams, Philly is... Like i said, Unless Pitt is willing to give up Pouliot or Matta. 

 

Still think a Buff,Burmi, prospect forward not named Kyle Connor to Philly for Sanheim or Provorov, 1st and a guy to replace Burmi (Schenn,Read) makes sense. 

Long been reported Philly wants Buff.  But would have to think they'd want him signed.

 

Im intrigued by the Pens because they might prefer an unsigned Buff.  Pens are in for a world of hurt if they arent successful this season.  Their "win now" window is closing.  Waited too long to move Kunitz.  Should probably move Malkin.

A signed Buff gets back way more than Sanheim, a 1st and Schenn or Read tho...

 

Sometimes as a team, if you want to make a big impact, you need to take a risk... Jets have no incentives to move Buff at all really, sure he's a UFA but... if other teams are calling about him, I'm asking for a ton and I don't trade him until i get what i want really... I'd let a team talk to Buffs agent if they want too, to gauge his interest in signing with them but... 

 

Unless Pouliot and Or Matta or Maata or whoever you spell it are coming back to us, The pens are a team i see no reason to do business with.

 

They would need to offer way more than just a D man also, They don't have a 1st in 2016... so to me, they are not one of the real contenders to land Buff.

 

CBJ, Philly... These are teams i would talk to about Buff

 

CBJ has Werenski, he would fit nice with us, they have Murray, he'd be a nice fit, they have Rychel, he might work.. They have their 1st...

 

Philly has Sanheim,Provorov,B Schenn,Hagg, they have what works

I dont know...there comes a point when the switch flips and the Jets have no leverage.  I sort of waiver of UFA's to a degree.  I think unless a guy is critical you never keep him...trade at the deadline.  Even if its a lower level guy and you're getting a 3rd, 5thrd whatever...its asset management.  Last season I argued that Chevy did the right thing in keep Frolik because I looked at like this - if we wanted to buy at the deadline, we'd want a Frolik type so if we lost him for nothing, it was like getting him for nothing as a rental.

 

But if they lose Buff and/or Ladd for nothing it's horrendously bad asset management.  You cant let value like that walk away for nothing.

 

It would not surprise me if we get to the deadline and talk of all-night negotiation sessions with either or both guys...and right up until the deadline and if they dont accept, they get traded.  Can't lose them for nothing.  Are we Chicago?  Are we Montreal?  Do we have a legitimate shot at the Cup?  No, so you have to make trades.  But the risk is, you trade Buff at the deadline and it hurts the team.

It would not surprise me if we get to the deadline and talk of all-night negotiation sessions with either or both guys...and right up until the deadline and if they dont accept, they get traded.  Can't lose them for nothing.

I said that about Frolik.

Frolik isnt Ladd or Buff.

Jets have no leverage at this moment not to many teams that can take his contract for the rest of the year and give us what we need. He will either resign with the Jets at a cap friendly deal or will be traded at the deadline if we are out of the playoffs. 

Frolik isnt Ladd or Buff.

No but he was worth $5m/yr to someone. I think a $5mil/yr player is worth something.

Just cuz Frolik is worth that to Calgary don't mean he's worth that to Winnipeg. Jets are loaded with forward prospects. Calgary isn't

Chevy wasn't going to overpay for him and I agree 100%....

That contract is easy to take this year but what about the next 3-4 years?

No thanks.

Chevy wasn't going to overpay for him and I agree 100%....

That contract is easy to take this year but what about the next 3-4 years?

No thanks.

 

A $4.3 million cap hit for Frolik is not bad at all for five years...  I would gladly have him on this team instead of Stafford and I like DS

Stafford signed for 2 years. Fro wanted 5. Makes a difference

Lets not forget that Folik's wife was reportedly not happy in Winnipeg either.   Even at the same money and contract length, chances are he wasn't re-signing here anyway.

 

@craigsmorgan: Shane Doan has three points (G, 2 As) tonight. Now within 27 points of Dale Hawerchuk for the franchise all-time lead.

 

This is a horrible horrible thing.

 

Sure, it's taken Doan 20 seasons to almost do what Dale did in 9.

Burmi is bringing everything Frolik did and at a fraction of the price.

Yeah. Sure he is.

Burmi on my bottom 3 list atm. Good thing for him the Moose suck.

Burmi on my bottom 3 list atm. Good thing for him the Moose suck.

Absurd. Unless your point is the bottom three of 12 very good players. He's even better than I hoped. Very defensively strong. Not taking chances to generate offense. That third line is very good.

Choice between Burni is Frolik right now is Burmi. Younger, cheaper, better contract and Burni is as defensively sound