Anyone else following them as intently as I am right now? They are on fire after the trade deadline moves.

 

I'm a little concerned that AA left the minor league pitching cupboards a little too bare, especially with the Price trade. Even though they gave up the guys with the highest potential in Hoffman and Castro, I think the return was worth it, since Reyes had regressed so quickly. In getting Price though, AA gave up a couple of guys who would likely have been solid starters in a year or two in exchange for a rental. A very good rental, but a rental none the less. Without the Price move, I'm not sure if the Tulo and Revere moves alone would have provided the morale boost and buzz that we're seeing now that could propel them into the playoffs.

 

The positive thing is that we have most of our current position players returning next year, which will ensure very good defensive play and offensive continuity, but it will be a challenge to pull together a complete starting rotation and bullpen without being pretty active in free agency. Pitchers currently on the roster who they have no control over include Estrada, Buhrle, Price, Hawkins, and Lowe.

Not gonna win when you go 0 for with runners in scoring position. Congrats to the better TEAM...

This time ...

They got a lot of decisions to make in the off season's and it starts with AA 

Price Estrada are 2 important ones too.

They need to concentrate on Estrada, don't think they got a chance with Price

All I asked for was meaningful September ball, and I got all that and more this season. Congrats on an extremely fun season. Looking forward to next spring, but for now, it's hockey and curling and the tail end of CFL!!

All I asked for was meaningful September ball, and I got all that and more this season. Congrats on an extremely fun season. Looking forward to next spring, but for now, it's hockey and curling and the tail end of CFL!!

 

Yup. I'm disappointed, but it was fun.

 

Still lots of sports to keep me entertained. Go Riders, Broncos, Oilers, Penguins, and Sea Dogs! 

Im still baffled by something that doesnt seem to be mentioned (or maybe I missed it).. everyone can look at leaving runner on 3rd with no outs as deathblow (and arguement can be made to support it) however when Cain was on 1st (not considered in "scoring position" and score was 3-3, when the double was hit why was the ball thrown to 2nd (then relayed to home) instead of throwing to pitcher area or home outright and holding Cain at 3rd? Cain is fast but once that ball was headed to 2nd he got the green light to round 3rd and ultimately unchallenged by a late throw to the plate.  I was always taught that the runners next base is your cutoff man to prevent further damage after giving up a clean hit.  a runner on 1st should be expected to take 3rd, but why was there no urgency to protect home from the throw in? Ive watched bautista pick off a guy at 3rd and home plate from right field in the same game so its not due to lack of arm strength. was this a f*** up or am I not seeing the logic in the throw to 2nd in this case? 

Im still baffled by something that doesnt seem to be mentioned (or maybe I missed it).. everyone can look at leaving runner on 3rd with no outs as deathblow (and arguement can be made to support it) however when Cain was on 1st (not considered in "scoring position" and score was 3-3, when the double was hit why was the ball thrown to 2nd (then relayed to home) instead of throwing to pitcher area or home outright and holding Cain at 3rd? Cain is fast but once that ball was headed to 2nd he got the green light to round 3rd and ultimately unchallenged by a late throw to the plate.  I was always taught that the runners next base is your cutoff man to prevent further damage after giving up a clean hit.  a runner on 1st should be expected to take 3rd, but why was there no urgency to protect home from the throw in? Ive watched bautista pick off a guy at 3rd and home plate from right field in the same game so its not due to lack of arm strength. was this a f*** up or am I not seeing the logic in the throw to 2nd in this case? 

When Revere lead off the game with a double and they didn't sacrifice Donaldson (and ultimately didn't score Revere), I said to  myself "they're going to lose this game by one run". In a game of that magnitude, every run counts, and they messed up right from the start.

Surprising news, given the success they had this season, but Anthopoulos is out as Jays GM.

 

http://www.tsn.ca/anthopoulos-leaves-jays-after-rejecting-4-year-extension-1.384678

I laughed...apparently in the year-end meeting, the first thing Shapiro did was give AA **** for trading away their entire future. Cupboards are pretty bare now, after AA sold his soul for a World Series. AA apparently wanted total autonomy for 5 years, and Shapiro laughed at him, so that was that. Those two were not going to be able to get along.

Yeah I read some of the comments and, if true, then it's pretty easy to see why he's not coming back.

Short term gain for long term pain, if the Blue Jays can't sign some pitching they won't see the post season for long time. Anybody can see what AA did and by not making it to the World Series sealed his fate. 

Im curious who these prospects were and why our cupboards are bare now? I know we gave up a couple for Donaldson but c'mon now AL MVP and he's young,  he could be a jay for years to come. If anything I would have said the moves AA made this year (about damn time) saved his job, as reported he was offered 1yr extention in july then after the moves he made offered a 2 year then 4year. I think this has more to do with the relationship between AA and Shapiro then the jays not making the WS. 

The Jays offered him a 4 year deal so clearly his fate wasnt sealed by not making the world series.

He chose to leave... And if the reports, about getting chewed out in your 1st and only meeting with your new boss, are true, then I would be reluctant to come back too.

There's a lot of young talent that he gave up but i'll name just 2. Noah Syndergaard and Daniel Norris. It's great that Donaldson is MVP but can he pitch. Again AA knew that his job was on the line and it was World Series or pack my bags, so he went all in to show the brass that knew what he doing and he should get total autonomy to run the club. In the end he gambled with the teams future and lost and Shapiro make it impossible for him to stay on. It would have been a different story if they would have gone to the World Series and potentially won.

The Jays offered him a 4 year deal so clearly his fate wasnt sealed by not making the world series.

He chose to leave... And if the reports, about getting chewed out in your 1st and only meeting with your new boss, are true, then I would be reluctant to come back too.

So who offered AA the extension, it wouldn't be Beeston because he was essentially neutered, and it wouldn't be incoming president Shapiro he currently works for another team. 

It was the young Rogers kid that did it...effectively the CEO of the organization......but AA turned it down. Wanted 7 years and full autonomy, apparently, and they were only willing to give 4 or 5, I think I read. And man, if you don't know how much AA gave up in the David Price deal, you need to go and check. AA sold his soul to the devil for a chance to win a WS and it didn't pan out. And the grand irony is, it was the prized pick-up Price (who they paid the most for...) that didn't deliver. And he's likely to bolt during this off-season as well. So THAT, in a nutshell, is why AA got chewed out by Shapiro...

no reason why they dont keep price. if the issue is prospects, or lack of,  you keep your commodities until you reload. id certainly be making the offers to price despite his post season end results were

Well you definitely make him an offer, but I'm really not sure you're going to outbid the Yankees or Sox for him...

no reason why they dont keep price. if the issue is prospects, or lack of,  you keep your commodities until you reload. id certainly be making the offers to price despite his post season end results were

25 million and term to keep Price, pony up Blue Jays 

Price not a fan of Yankees. I'd say Cubs are a good bet to offer him money. Guy wants to win tho so who knows. Money matters but.... winning to price might mean more.

Jays are screwed tho now. They probably won't compete for a while unless they do sign Price and Estrada and Stroman becomes a bigger star.

Agreed Cubs will be players think the Dodgers will make a big play for him, Yankees need mid relief and bats probably not in the mix for him

Cubs have the advantage of having Joe Maddon as manager they both think very highly of each other. Exciting time to be a Cubs fan. Looks like might go hard to get two of the better pitchers on the market and Jason Hayward.