I'll preface this thread by saying, I am not complaining at all about the win tonight.  Beating Saskatchewan is the best thing in the world no matter  how it was done.  We rarely win in Regina and this is a happy occasion.

 

Do not get me wrong at all, it was a great game, our offense was fantastic, Drew Willy played exceptional, Paris Cotton is a beast, Nick Moore is back and better than before, Clarence Denmark is a warrior.  And screw the Bellefeuille haters, he outdid Chapdelaine this game.

 

 

 

 

But......

 

Richie Hall's defense was not looking good out there.  Lots of plays where guys were out of position, vanilla playcalling, getting gashed in the run, thank god Adams came up with that pick on that one throw or we might really have gotten in trouble.  A little surprised too that the Riders didn't go for it on 3rd and short when they were on their last possession and punted it there even though I know Messam got a bit whacked there.

 

It was a good game but this defense had better not be getting gashed like that week in and week out.  Hall was hired to fix it and fix the run and so far, he almost looks worse than Etcheverry.  I'm gonna enjoy the win for the time being but we can't afford that in Hamilton next week or late in the season.

I'd try Washington at Sam. Move Randle back to corner. Sit Bucknor and start an American at hb

I like this idea.

I'd try Washington at Sam. Move Randle back to corner. Sit Bucknor and start an American at hb

 

Move Randle back at weakside CB. If it's not broken don't fix it.

Move Adams or Shell  at SAM.

 

Bring back Allen as MLB.

Firing a guy 2 games in to a season is crazy talk

It worked with Montreal... It would of been good had we done that to Kelly...

I say bring in Reed or literally anyone else.

 

Adams still looks like a player......Westerman, Hurl, Randal at LB.......have done next to nothing.

 

And yet Westerman still leads the team in sacks (not that that's saying much at this point) ..

 

The more I watch this defense .. the more apparent it is that certain players are simply being misused .. a case in point is that Randle has gone from being an all-star calibre cornerback .. a guy QBs stayed away from .. to being a liability at LB .. 

 

 

Yes it's Richie Hall doing that.  It's 100% his fault for moving Randle away from corner, 100% his fault for backing our linebackers off the line of scrimmage, and being stupid for not faking blitzes, loading the box, or doing anything to try and confuse Hamilton.

 

What a stupid defensive coordinator who should be shitcanned immediately and an instant upgraded actual real DC brought in to fix this.  Just stupid that he got hired to come in here.

Come on guys. Our D is improving.

We gave up 497 against Riders and only 441 against Hammy.

And if the Bombers hadn't turned the ball over to them so many times for instant points it might have been 600.

Just pitiful that we came into camp saying we needed a better DL and the one we got looks worse. Oh how I miss the guys like Alex Hall or Phil Hunt. Walters appears to have failed miserably at recruiting for the teams biggest needs this offseason.

That's bs.. The o line was the biggest need and he did that. Turner and westerman both were seen as great players.

Randle was loved last season by even you.

I don't pin this on Walters .. I blame the coach big time. We did better last year with Kuale!!! This purely is on the system and who he has playing where.

Randle was loved last year because he's a difference maker at CB.  He's not been playing well in his new spot except for the time he shot the gap last night and brought down the RB behind the LOS.  I'd move him back where he's a difference maker and move someone else into his LB spot.

We have good import DLs and LBs coing from TC like Sammy Brown, Denicos Allen.

It's a head scratcher when those 2 was cut.

Maybe it's time to bring them back.

 

 

Adams still looks like a player......Westerman, Hurl, Randal at LB.......have done next to nothing.

 

And yet Westerman still leads the team in sacks (not that that's saying much at this point) ..

 

The more I watch this defense .. the more apparent it is that certain players are simply being misused .. a case in point is that Randle has gone from being an all-star calibre cornerback .. a guy QBs stayed away from .. to being a liability at LB .. 

 

 

Yes it's Richie Hall doing that.  It's 100% his fault for moving Randle away from corner, 100% his fault for backing our linebackers off the line of scrimmage, and being stupid for not faking blitzes, loading the box, or doing anything to try and confuse Hamilton.

 

What a stupid defensive coordinator who should be shitcanned immediately and an instant upgraded actual real DC brought in to fix this.  Just stupid that he got hired to come in here.

 

Funny, I seem to remember a lot of people on this board, myself included, who were really happy that firstly, Etch was gone, and secondly that Richie Hall was hired.  I too am not happy with the D as they currently stand, but I do know enough about Mike O'Shea to know that there is just about 0% chance that Hall is fired before the season is out.  So that being the case, let's hope that MOS has a talk with Hall about schemes and with Walters about finding some replacements because as I see it, both schemes and personnel changes are going to be needed. 

Randle was loved last year because he's a difference maker at CB.  He's not been playing well in his new spot except for the time he shot the gap last night and brought down the RB behind the LOS.  I'd move him back where he's a difference maker and move someone else into his LB spot.

 

I very much agree on that.

Hey we started off strong last year and tanked. Lots of football left to be played.

 

 

Come on guys. Our D is improving.

We gave up 497 against Riders and only 441 against Hammy.

And if the Bombers hadn't turned the ball over to them so many times for instant points it might have been 600.

Just pitiful that we came into camp saying we needed a better DL and the one we got looks worse. Oh how I miss the guys like Alex Hall or Phil Hunt. Walters appears to have failed miserably at recruiting for the teams biggest needs this offseason.

That's bs.. The o line was the biggest need and he did that. Turner and westerman both were seen as great players.

Randle was loved last season by even you.

I don't pin this on Walters .. I blame the coach big time. We did better last year with Kuale!!! This purely is on the system and who he has playing where.

 

He signed free agents for the OL. Westerman was seen as a great player cause he was a canadian from the NFL, turns out he's nothing special so far. Turner might still be great but the duo at DT is not getting the job done. One of them needs to be upgraded. Peach is better as a depth guy than the top DE, we need a better DE. that's 2 positions that need big upgrades on the DL before we can even think about having a good defence. 

 

Football is a pretty simple game and if you can't do basic things like pressure a qb you're gonna have a bad time and based on 2 games, our DL is pitiful

We still have Kashawn Fraser, Derrell Johnson and Nate Collins around.

Then put em in the game! The guys we're lining up now aren't doing the job time to make changes. 

Then put em in the game! The guys we're lining up now aren't doing the job time to make changes.

I agree. Maybe not all at once, but start replacing the underperformers to shake things up and send a message.

Yes send a message to that clown Hall that this vanilla icecream soft scheme approach doesn't work in football and give him an ultimatum.

 

This bs can't be tolerated in the camp of putting good players in awful positions.  Enough is enough, time to pull a Rick Worman on Richie Hall.

We still have Kashawn Fraser, Derrell Johnson and Nate Collins around.

 

I could be wrong, but we can't pull Nate Collins from the 6-game IR, because we just pulled Neufeld?

Someone needs to tell Hall that preseason is over.

New rules have gutted traditional zone Ds like Hall's... all of those need a rub or a pick here and there to slow down the receiver, can't do that now - so receivers just have too much speed by the time the DB is expected to react

 

That and our front seven is awful.

We have good import DLs and LBs coing from TC like Sammy Brown, Denicos Allen.

It's a head scratcher when those 2 was cut.

Maybe it's time to bring them back.

Why they got cut and they kept Bass is beyond me... Not saying Bass is bad but S. Brown and D. Allen had much better College Careers so they should have been around to at least the 2nd pre-season Game IMO

In all honesty, which part of our D is the biggest issue, linebacker or Dline?

Lots of guys had good college careers and failed up here. Coaches saw those guys everyday. 90 percent of us saw a YouTube highlite video.

The D line is the biggest issue by far and the schemes. Honestly I'd say the scheme is the biggest issue

 

We have good import DLs and LBs coing from TC like Sammy Brown, Denicos Allen.

It's a head scratcher when those 2 was cut.

Maybe it's time to bring them back.

Why they got cut and they kept Bass is beyond me... Not saying Bass is bad but S. Brown and D. Allen had much better College Careers so they should have been around to at least the 2nd pre-season Game IMO

 

 

Looks like S.Brown shown more than T.Gibson and Allen is better than Bass during the tail-end of the TC.

In all honesty, which part of our D is the biggest issue, linebacker or Dline?

Defensive line without a second thought. It's the same as on offence, it all starts in the trenches and if you lose that battle you've lost the war. 

Khalif Mitchell.  Best available option.