Separate thread here as Free Agency is pretty much a week away.

 

An interesting tidbit in recent Free Press article:

 

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/hockey/jets/Burmistrovs-future-big-storyline-for-Jets-at-draft-309360161.html

 

 

 

We’re all dealing with trying to sign RFAs or UFAs and not having a solid number in front of you makes things a little bit difficult, difficult from a signing standpoint and difficult from a player agreeing standpoint. Everyone wants to know what might be available out there for him. We’re entering another unique part of the CBA where you have an interview period which starts on Thursday (where teams can ‘court’ prospective free agents in advance ot the market opening on July 1st). That’s a different phenomenon that we’re all learning the ins and outs from that standpoint. I guess once all things come into play and now you know you’re number, you can really start making your final plans for how you can move forward."

 

So while I know that talks with Frolik have apparently begun to "heat" up, if we don't get a deal done by Thursday he will be able to start getting a feel for what kind of money and term other teams would be willing to give him.

 

Must be the busiest time of the year for GMs with the Draft this weekend and Free Agency soon after.

 

With GMs able to talk to agents on Thursday, and pretty much all agents and GMs being at the draft, I expect a huge flurry of singings July 1st when they can officially submit contracts.

Free agents? Claude Noel joins the NJ Devils as pro scout.

Free agents? Claude Noel joins the NJ Devils as pro scout.

 

Very interesting as I believe it was reported that Noel left the Giants to pursue pro opportunities.  Guess there was no coaching jobs offered to him.

 

He is going to be turning 60 this year.  Wonder if he is just getting too old to connect to the younger players.

 

Free agents? Claude Noel joins the NJ Devils as pro scout.

 

Very interesting as I believe it was reported that Noel left the Giants to pursue pro opportunities.  Guess there was no coaching jobs offered to him.

 

He is going to be turning 60 this year.  Wonder if he is just getting too old to connect to the younger players.

 

I'm sure those 70's hockey stories translated well

@theScore: Canucks, Brandon Sutter agree to 5-year, $21.875M contract extension.

Ladd deserves 6 x 7 million then.

No idea what Canucks are doing.

@penguins: The #Pens have agreed to terms with veteran center Matt Cullen. Details: http://t.co/0yOe2zwNexhttp://t.co/qXgrLuk9Dl

Stoll signs for one year, 800k with Rangers...  great value

Stoll, who was busted with Coke and Meth in Vegas? That guy? From LA to New York? Yup that's gonna help. 

Well worth the low price but yikes troubled guy

@AnaheimDucks: BREAKING: #NHLDucks sign Mike Santorelli to a one-year contract: http://t.co/TVvX0LkJWHhttp://t.co/qEz6KTAB8G

Depending on cash, that's a very good signing.

@icemancometh: Ducks sign veteran forward Mike Santorelli to one-year contract worth $875,000.

Wonder why Chevy never re-signed Santorelli... seemed okay to me

He wasn't good with the Jets plus it's a 2 way street really. Maybe he didn't want to sign here.

Wonder why Chevy never re-signed Santorelli... seemed okay to me

Yeah never understood that either. If you're good in overtime shootouts chances are you got the talent for a regular shift.

 

On the other hand he;s on a new team every year it seems.

Wonder why Chevy never re-signed Santorelli... seemed okay to me

Yeah never understood that either. If you're good in overtime shootouts chances are you got the talent for a regular shift.

On the other hand he;s on a new team every year it seems.

More than one team per year really. Must be something the coaches don't like about his game.

There is a little rumor going around that the Jets and Ladd have agreed to a contract extension and it will be announced when he is back in Winnipeg around August 25th for a charity golf tournament.. some rumors suggest 7 years 49 million. Take it for what it's worth tho.. same people are saying they aren't close with Buff and it's very likely he will be moved prior to the start of the season. 

There is a little rumor going around that the Jets and Ladd have agreed to a contract extension and it will be announced when he is back in Winnipeg around August 25th for a charity golf tournament.. some rumors suggest 7 years 49 million. Take it for what it's worth tho.. same people are saying they aren't close with Buff and it's very likely he will be moved prior to the start of the season. 

 

Please no...  

7 years is too long for him to be making 7 million.  He will be 30 when that contract kicks in.

 

More than I really want to pay, but could stomach it for 4 years because we have the cap space to afford it (at least for the first half of it).  Paying him that much when he is 35+ is not good.

6 or 7 years is what I've been told.  Ladd is a top LW in the game, He's very under rated by some people it seems. Who knows what the contract will break down to look like tho. Just saying don't be surprised if it's for big money. Guy was on a pretty sweetheart deal of 4.4 million a year currently. He's gonna get a raise, The term is guaranteed to be 6 or 7 years. 

This is a pretty good breakdown of Ladd and how he compares to similar players from the Illegal Curve guys.

 

http://illegalcurve.com/2015/07/06/what-is-the-fair-market-value-of-jets-captain-andrew-ladd/

 

Their comparable players:

 

 

Parise's and Spezza's contracts take them to a similar age to what a 7 year deal would for Ladd, so $7M is probably in the range.   I just wonder how happy those teams are going to be playing those players that salary when they are in their mid 30s.

 

Their suggested salary is:

 

$7.0 million per season on a four-year term

$6.75 million per season on a five-term term

$6.5 million per season on a six-year term and

$6.25 million per season on a seven-year term.

It depends how the cash is broken down too.  If Im the Jets I front load it as much as possible.  Sure, the cap hit stays constant, but like Myers, the team will see a significant cash savings in later years when the cap will surely rise giving the team more money to spend.

 

Ladd is generally under-rated.  I'd prefer $44M-$46M on 7 years but if it takes $7 per, so be it.  He's the Captain.  He's also the type of player that will likely contribute as he ages.  If he ages out as a contributed 3rd LW who sets an example and his cash per year is much lower compared to the cap hit, then it's probably a win.

 

And if the idea is to trade Buff, Im all for it as long as we get a significant return.  I would suspect the Jets would be looking at a mid-six winger, depth D and significant prospect.  Something to help now and something to help later.

gary lawless        ✔ @garylawless

for those asking, i'm told no new progress on talks between Andrew Ladd and #nhljets and no talks ongoing between team and Dustin Byfuglien

For the life of me, just don't get not even talking to Buff's agent. What does a lack of communication accomplish? Can we assume then that the Jets know exactly where he stands & that trade scenarios have been looked at all summer?  'Cuz if not, what the heck are we doing this offseason?

We've seen speculation on what Buff wants so lets assume the Jets have had at least cursory talks with the agent.  Ladd is more important and surely impacts an offer to Buff.  Get Ladd signed.  Then move on to Buff. 

 

It could be they've decided to trade Buff and have been quietly working on it.