Floyd Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So we should let Frolik walk and bring Burmistrov back... okey dokey. FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Imo Burmi is as good as traded already. He won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I always forget about Burmi. That is not flawed thinking, and you should probably keep doing it. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 So we should let Frolik walk and bring Burmistrov back... okey dokey. Thats exactly what was stated. Perfect comprehension there. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi probably part of a larger deal. Think buff Burmi type of trade. He's a throw in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I always forget about Burmi. That is not flawed thinking, and you should probably keep doing it. Yeah probably but Id love to see what maurice gets out of him. It depends what source you listen to but one source said Burmi was totally fine with going back to Winnipeg and another said he didnt want to play for Winnipeg. I believe Maurice did talk to him though. He wont get us much on the trade market but if we accept that Chevy holds out for full value, he's a first round draft pick that put of decent numbers and played all situations. He has value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 and goalies don't have much value in trades either so don't pretend you're going to get anything of value from anyone for a goaltender. You'll get more from a goalie prospect though. No you won't. Goalie prospects are notoriously flaky and hold little value. There are so many serviceable goaltenders out there every season no one is going to spend big unless they really get their heart set on someone. Goalies are important but they hold about the least trade value of any position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys. They kept Kane for years until the issue was forced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys.They kept Kane for years until the issue was forced. Kane has and had more talent and potential than Burmi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 and goalies don't have much value in trades either so don't pretend you're going to get anything of value from anyone for a goaltender. You'll get more from a goalie prospect though. No you won't. Goalie prospects are notoriously flaky and hold little value. There are so many serviceable goaltenders out there every season no one is going to spend big unless they really get their heart set on someone. Goalies are important but they hold about the least trade value of any position. Thats where adding say Pav to a buff for eberle trade might be enticing for both teams, IF the Jets feel comfortable riding Hutch, or vice versa, but if its Pav, might as well do it while he has even a little value. I think this works for both teams, imo unless MacT is the type of dealer that offers a bag of pucks n a roll of hockey tape, then maybe we look elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 MacT may be fired. Former bruins GM in talks with Edmonton apparently. If that happens I could see the oilers making several trades Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Jamie Phillips has trade value as a prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 MacT may be fired. Former bruins GM in talks with Edmonton apparently. If that happens I could see the oilers making several trades They won't make a lot of trades, but Chiarelli in for MacT is the quickest and surest way to respectability for that team... bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 They might because Peter C has no prior history with some of the guys macT and crew drafted. I think they almost have too make some trades. Eberle being the most likely. Changes on ice need to come. You ain't gonna be signing ufas. There are barely any. Trades is the only option really to fix that D there. One or more of the young guys being traded would bring back d help. With no D or Goaltending. Oilers will suck again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys.They kept Kane for years until the issue was forced. Kane has and had more talent and potential than Burmi. We werent discussing talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 MacT seems afraid to make trades. He really must have no game when it comes to negotiations. They need a strong dealer to right the ship. They have a ton of assets and still suck. That speaks to asset distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 MacT seems afraid to make trades. He really must have no game when it comes to negotiations. They need a strong dealer to right the ship. They have a ton of assets and still suck. That speaks to asset distribution. The same could have been said about Chevy until this season. Just saying though, not trying to compare the two because clearly Chevy had a plan & stuck to it while MacT has been ... well I have no idea what that guy has been doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys.They kept Kane for years until the issue was forced. Kane has and had more talent and potential than Burmi. We werent discussing talent. Exactly - we were discussing Burmistrov... If you want to keep setting these up for me, I don't mind. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Apparently the word is, they're looking at Chiarelli for KLowe's old gig, which was President and head of hockey ops. So MacT would be doing grunt work, but the final word will always be Chia. I'm only okay with this if it means that MacT isn't allowed to make any kind of decisions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Burmi issues might be attitude related. Jets seem to be high on guys with good character. Not sure Burmi is one of those guys.They kept Kane for years until the issue was forced. Kane has and had more talent and potential than Burmi. We werent discussing talent. Exactly - we were discussing Burmistrov... If you want to keep setting these up for me, I don't mind. If you dont think Burmi has talent, then you're not a very good judge of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I don't see the Jets trading anyone in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I don't see the Jets trading anyone in the off season. i dont see anything significant either, would be nice, but I think deadline would be time teams are more willing to pull trigger just because itll be alot more known if they need to make a serious push for the playoffs or not. Then again a team like Edmonton has to start giving their fans something. If they come out of the gate like crap after 4 of the last 6 1st overalls (or something like that) heads will be rolling all season long and once again Edmonton wont be looking at growing spring time beards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Aside from Hall, there's not really anyone on Edmonton that I'd trade for... don't really need Eberle is we've got Petan and Ehlers in development. Musil is probably their only decent prospect that might be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I always forget about armia too. dreger just said he see chiarot as a top four d man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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