rebusrankin Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 According to Burke in the Free Press, Buck is still the starter. Is he crazy? I think this will lead to him being fired in the end but if this is their attitude, does this regime need to be let go ASAP?/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Burkes stubborn insistence that Pierce is the starter is going to get a lot of people fired. comedygeek and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinBlue Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 He's not only screwing us over for this year but next years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Burkes stubborn insistence that Pierce is the starter is going to get a lot of people fired. Good bye Crowton that's for sure! It's to bad that we didn't get Cortez in the off season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 Good bye Crowton that's for sure! It's to bad that we didn't get Cortez in the off season.... Burke, Crowton, Mack, probably all the rest of the coaches too since a new GM will bring in all new coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 It's a shame if it goes down like this .. I think Creehan / Burke are tremendous coordinators and losing them (and the influence over our defense) would hurt .. hopefully the team can right the ship and we can make some progress. Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 It's a shame if it goes down like this .. I think Creehan / Burke are tremendous coordinators and losing them (and the influence over our defense) would hurt .. hopefully the team can right the ship and we can make some progress. Agreed. Burke just never seemed like a good HC to me. And the even dumber thing is, if you listen to his interview after the game. If Buck hadn't gotten hurt, he would never have pulled him. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 It's a shame if it goes down like this .. I think Creehan / Burke are tremendous coordinators and losing them (and the influence over our defense) would hurt .. hopefully the team can right the ship and we can make some progress. I really like our staff right now actually. The Burke/Creehan tandem is outstanding, the problem is that Burke as a HC isn't working out for us right now. He has more time to turn it around but if he continues with Buck he deserves his fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 20, 2013 Report Share Posted July 20, 2013 The one I'll be most disappointed to lose is Mack because he brings in some fantastic talent. Too bad his choices at head coach haven't been worth a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The one I'll be most disappointed to lose is Mack because he brings in some fantastic talent. Too bad his choices at head coach haven't been worth a damn. I feel the same way. He's been willing to expend political capital to do things right .. to build this team for the long haul and ensure it's sustainable. We've come a long way in three seasons .. unfortunately for Mack, his coaches have been unable to correct the one thing that's sorely hindered this team ... consistent offensive output. That will ultimately be his downfall ,, the powers that be ARE the sort who cow to pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The one I'll be most disappointed to lose is Mack because he brings in some fantastic talent. Too bad his choices at head coach haven't been worth a damn. HC and QB. He has brought in so much talent at all the other positions but his young QBs didn't pan out and now his second HC isn't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinBlue Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 We didn't give Elliott and Brink a chance to pan out, pretty sure one of them would of given enough time and fair opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 HC and QB. He has brought in so much talent at all the other positions but his young QBs didn't pan out and now his second HC isn't either. To me it's a situation where a guy can have all the talent in the world as a qb but he still needs a lot of other things to go right and I don't think the guys we had were able to do it. I still say Elliott could have turned into a decent starter, but obviously Burke didn't like him. Goltz shows potential, but will he be able to d anything when he's not given a chance to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Good on Burke for getting this out of the way now, at the same time i'm not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I feel the same way. He's been willing to expend political capital to do things right .. to build this team for the long haul and ensure it's sustainable. We've come a long way in three seasons .. unfortunately for Mack, his coaches have been unable to correct the one thing that's sorely hindered this team ... consistent offensive output. That will ultimately be his downfall ,, the powers that be ARE the sort who cow to pressure. This is literally my favorite post ever. Expressed perfectly. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yet Mack brought in Crowton, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yet Mack brought in Crowton, so.... What confuses me the most is that for about 6 games last season Crowton seems to have "got it'. Now our offense looks like last seasons start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 The last 2 weeks we have faced the 2 worst run defences in the league and have done NOTHING against them except for one big run. Our run game is so vanilla and unimaginative it's baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 What confuses me the most is that for about 6 games last season Crowton seems to have "got it'. Now our offense looks like last seasons start. I think, in part, it's due to the fact they've rejigged things to try and keep Buck upright .. protect him .. Buck's inability to *DO ANYTHING* in the offense is dragging the whole thing down .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Crowton got what.....those games were over and they racked up junk free yards. Misleading stats to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 I think, in part, it's due to the fact they've rejigged things to try and keep Buck upright .. protect him .. Buck's inability to *DO ANYTHING* in the offense is dragging the whole thing down .. Ya I think we may see a lot more creativity with Goltz under centre. We saw them move the pocket way more with him in and obviously they have designated runs in there for him too. The zone-read will become a lot more of a threat now with a QB that can pull the ball. The offensive plays have shown some potential early on, there just hasn't been enough of them consistently. They ran some high-percentage throws on Buck's first drive of the game and even he had some success with them. The playcalling was a lot more "normal" (ie. what we're used to) after that. I wouldn't sink Crowton just yet. I want to see him with a mobile QB in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskbluefan Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Just because Burke is in over his head as an HC doesn't mean Mack isn't as a GM. You don't get this bad this consistently with only one incompetent person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Just because Burke is in over his head as an HC doesn't mean Mack isn't as a GM. You don't get this bad this consistently with only one incompetent person. The team isn't bad .. the offense is .. we have a championship calibre defense when all our starters are in (hell we're pretty damn good when we have backups in) .. if the offense could be average .. this would be a very dangerous team. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Whoever decided on keeping Buck needs to be fired.... I wonder just how much control Crowton truly does have on final decisions. I wonder if he had full power that he would not put Hall in since that's his guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted July 21, 2013 Report Share Posted July 21, 2013 Yet Mack brought in Crowton, so.... Umm, no. LaPo brought in Crowton. Here's the video where he talks about him getting Crowton onto the Bombers. Unless he's lying, LaPo brought him onboard. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Bombers-hire-Crowton-as-new-offensive-co-ordinator-138325609.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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