gbill2004 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I read on a couple other forums that Bob Wylie is rumoured to be the Bombers next OL coach. I think he'd be a great hire. Edmonton rumoured to also be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 I read on a couple other forums that Bob Wylie is rumoured to be the Bombers next OL coach. I think he'd be a great hire. Edmonton rumoured to also be interested. Stubler was rumoured to be coming here as well so until there is announcement, I won't put a lot of stock in rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm actually hoping we lure McAdoo away from Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm actually hoping we lure McAdoo away from Toronto That'd be good but Wylie would be awesome too. He did some real good things with the o-line when he was here before. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Heard McAdoo is on his way to Edmonton to be their OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 speaking of OL coach... CFL Official Feed @CFL 32s The @CalStampeders have added Pat DelMonaco to their coaching staff - http://ow.ly/sjGEb #CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskbluefan Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Obviously Huff doesn't read this forum or else he would know how much DelMonaco sucks. sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Obviously Huff doesn't read this forum or else he would know how much DelMonaco sucks. Maybe he secretly hates Drew Tate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I always thought he was a good coach, not Wylie good mind you. Now at least I know someone else thinks so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Good players make good coaches great. Bad players get good coaches fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Good players make good coaches great. Bad players get good coaches fired. Good coaches make any player better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I don't know the year before Vince Lombardi went to Green Bay they were 1-10-1 on that roster they had 15 players that would become either a Hall of Famer, All Pro or Pro Bowler on it, many all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Doesn't stop them from getting them fired though does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Good players make good coaches great. Bad players get good coaches fired. good coaches make good players great and bad players good. Bad coaches make good players bad and get themselves fired. Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I guess there are a lot of good players out there then that have had the disadvantage of being poorly coached. Nobody seems to be able to bring them back from the scrap yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Talent on the field is more important than coaching, especially at the key positions like QB. If you think Huffer or Trestman would have somehow made Max Hall into a world beater than you are well, delusional. These players have been playing the game for 20 years. The margin for improvement at the pro level is marginal. They are basically as big, fast, and talented as they are going to get. That's why the GM (and scouting) is so important -- all the scheming and pre-game speeches won't matter a lick if guys are slow or just plain suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Talent on the field is more important than coaching, especially at the key positions like QB. If you think Huffer or Trestman would have somehow made Max Hall into a world beater than you are well, delusional. These players have been playing the game for 20 years. The margin for improvement at the pro level is marginal. They are basically as big, fast, and talented as they are going to get. That's why the GM (and scouting) is so important -- all the scheming and pre-game speeches won't matter a lick if guys are slow or just plain suck. Not everything is as black and white as you paint it. Nobody is talking about coaching Max Hall into a world beater, but rather coaching him to the point he is as good as possible, given the conditions physically and mentally, that he has to work with. Also coaching him up to take full advantage of the schemes, and help that he receives, or doesn't, from his offensive teammates. Sure scouting is important...I would certainly hope that they don't bring in players who just "suck". Mr Dee and TrueBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Any team with success has started with the Oline... whether its Popp, Huff or Taman... QB is obviously important but teams really do live and die with the OL - see Ricky Ray... Bringing in Wylie should be a good first step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Talent on the field is more important than coaching, especially at the key positions like QB. If you think Huffer or Trestman would have somehow made Max Hall into a world beater than you are well, delusional. These players have been playing the game for 20 years. The margin for improvement at the pro level is marginal. They are basically as big, fast, and talented as they are going to get. That's why the GM (and scouting) is so important -- all the scheming and pre-game speeches won't matter a lick if guys are slow or just plain suck. Not everything is as black and white as you paint it. Nobody is talking about coaching Max Hall into a world beater, but rather coaching him to the point he is as good as possible, given the conditions physically and mentally, that he has to work with. Also coaching him up to take full advantage of the schemes, and help that he receives, or doesn't, from his offensive teammates. Sure scouting is important...I would certainly hope that they don't bring in players who just "suck". Exactly Blitz. I've seen teams go from losers to championship winners in 1 year with barely any change in the team lineup. I've seen it happen in the NFL, NCAA, CFL, etc.... The right coach that can inspire you to win and do your best is 10X better then having the best players on your team and having a **** coach that does nothing but bring you down and point out everyone's faults. A good coach can inspire you and make you lose your jitteriness before a game. He can make players make plays that normally they'd hesitate to make. These 2 things can make a HUGE difference in a game. Take away Hall's jitteriness and all of a sudden he's a QB that has composure and keeps his foot planted. Sure he can't launch the ball down the field, but even with a weak arm, can makes 10-15 yard plays, and doesn't hesitate when he sees an open man. On the other hand, a **** coach neither inspires nor does he build confidence in his players. He makes his players feel inadequate, and that if they make mistakes they're going to lose their job. So they become jittery, they not only make mistakes, but they make big ones. They drop passes, throw in-completions, etc... because no one believes in them. In turns Hall, Goltz, Elliott, etc... into QB that look like they're crap. Coach's make ALL the difference on a team. I'm not saying you don't need some good players on your team, but any team, no matter how bad they are, can be a lot better with the right coach. Mr Dee and blitzmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 There are two things that make all the difference in the CFL, Coaching and quarterbacking. And do you think that it's a coincidence that Hufnagel had 3 qbs he could throw onto the field? Good coaches get the most out of their teams. If Tim Burke had been coaching Calgary or Saskatchewan they'd have been shitty teams this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'll never believe good coaching doesn't have a tremendous effect on players whether they're borderline or talented. Of course the more talented a team, the further that team goes----unless they have poor coaching and visa versa, a poor team can be coached to at least acceptable levels. You need all the levels to be successful, especially at QB….but without that coach….mediocrity prevails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 There are two things that make all the difference in the CFL, Coaching and quarterbacking. And do you think that it's a coincidence that Hufnagel had 3 qbs he could throw onto the field? Good coaches get the most out of their teams. If Tim Burke had been coaching Calgary or Saskatchewan they'd have been shitty teams this year too. Look at the QB's Calgary had to work with versus the garbage that WPG has? Calgary has had a vastly superior GM and as a result, a superior pipeline to quality players. If Huff was coaching Max Hall and the funky bunch he'd have a shitty year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 There are two things that make all the difference in the CFL, Coaching and quarterbacking. And do you think that it's a coincidence that Hufnagel had 3 qbs he could throw onto the field? Good coaches get the most out of their teams. If Tim Burke had been coaching Calgary or Saskatchewan they'd have been shitty teams this year too. Look at the QB's Calgary had to work with versus the garbage that WPG has? Calgary has had a vastly superior GM and as a result, a superior pipeline to quality players. If Huff was coaching Max Hall and the funky bunch he'd have a shitty year too. Kevin Glenn wasn't good enough in Winnipeg or Hamilton but he was good enough for Hufnagel.... robynjt and Logan007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I don't recall Glenn accomplishing that much in Calgary that he didn't accomplish in Winnipeg and Hamilton. NotoriousBIG, Floyd and Armchair GM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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