17to85 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Here's the thread for the mass LOLing at their terrible selections. I only started watching at about #33 and didn't see Chad Simpson mentioned, that's almost as big a joke as Owens being named #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Simpson was 38. Closest Bomber was Matthews at 28. Right behind Kyries Hebert.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 i just lol because most of the time they name an O-Lineman, they show footage of him getting beaten... i guess the old adage about the only time you (or a camera) notice an O-Line guy is true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Chad Owens isn't even the best player on his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Ray at 3 and Owens at 1 was a joke. Owens wasn't #1 until Ray showed up and the argos were a total joke until Ray showed up. He's #1 in the league right now AINEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingIce Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Chad simpson was probably the best running back in the league last year considering the O-Line he was playing behind, and the fact he only played 14 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Chad simpson was probably the best running back in the league last year considering the O-Line he was playing behind, and the fact he only played 14 games. There is definitely a very good case to be made that Simpson is the top rb in the league. The fact that he was that far down the list shows that he might be the most under rated player in the league. If Crowton is as smart as everyone thinks he is Simpson is going to be a big part of whatever the Bombers do on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Rumour has it Rod Black voted Sam Giguere at number one. Chaosmonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Bombers won't get respect until they win some games. Just the way it is. saskbluefan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 As much as I appreciate the coverage TSN gives the CFL and these lists can be fun, this particular type of list for CFL players is doomed to inaccuracies because of the nature of the league and how random guys can seemingly step in and become top-flight players. I have no real issue with no one on the bombers being above number 28 since arguably our best players in reality and as judged by the voters (Turner, Matthews and Hall) haven't had success for more than a year or two so the pedigree won't win them a top 20 spot which they probably don't deserve anyway. The real crime here is Chad Owens at number one. Forgetting the fact that his MOP award was thoroughly undeserved and he's merely an average receiver made far better by an elite quarterback but in a QB driven league in which every single other year this poll has been conducted QBs have been at the top by an incredible margin, why all of a sudden does this clown take the top spot? He's a good returner but considering his fumbles and even overall productivity, was no better than Chris Williams or even Larry Taylor. I recognize that he lead the league in receiving last year and me just saying he's really not that good doesn't hold much water but it's obvious that had he just been the league's leading receiver, he would not be number one on the list. His return numbers were pedestrian last year, buoyed by the fact that he returned kicks, punts and missed field goals in high volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 When I think of great receivers in the CFL, I don't think of Chad Owens. But if you talk returners, he's definetly number 1. Is he the best? He had the most yardage but I still think of him primarily as a ST player. He fumbles way too many times for my liking. I think Lulay is #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Glen January maybe the most underrated o-linemen in the league. To see how bad they were with out him just proves his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Where was Jon Cornish & Andrew Harris ranked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Jamel Richardson at #18? He doesn't belong on this list, let alone the top half of it. Richardson is at best the third-best receiver on the Als. Nik Lewis is underrated at #15. Only receiver I'd take in the CFL over Nik Lewis is the imaginary non-holdout version of Chris Williams. Maybe Dressler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Richardson's production really fell off last year & then he was injured. His reputation is from previous years which is unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Lewis drives other team's fans crazy but he is a beast. The guy is an awesome receiver. He isn't the fastest but is easily the most physical. Rider fans hate him which makes it even more special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Where was Jon Cornish & Andrew Harris ranked? Here is the full list. Don't shoot the messenger. 1. Chad Owens 2. Travis Lulay 3. Ricky Ray 4. Anthony Calvillo 5. Jon Cornish 6. J.C. Sherritt 7. Chris Williams 8. Jovan Olafioye 9. Andrew Harris 10. Adam Bighill 11. Fred Stamps 12. Weston Dressler 13. Henry Burris 14. Charleston Hughes 15. Nik Lewis 16. Keron Williams 17. Josh Bourke 18. Jamel Richardson 19. Dmitri Tsoumpas 20. Kory Sheets 21. Darian Durant 22. Patrick Watkins 23. Shea Emry 24. Korey Banks 25. S.J. Green 26. Chad Kackert 27. Kyries Hebert 28. Chris Matthews 29. Brandon Whitaker 30. Alex Hall 31. Bryant Turner 32. Joe Burnett 33. Brendon LaBatte 34. Chip Cox 35. Larry Taylor 36. Terrence Edwards 37. Drew Tate 38. Chad Simpson 39. Rey Williams 40. John Bowman 41. Jonathan Hefney 42. Brandon Isaac 44. Ryan Phillips 43. Khalif Mitchell 45. Andy Fantuz 46. Keon Raymond 47. Tyron Brackenridge 48. Ben Archibald 49. Scott Flory 50. Tim Brown How The List Was Made TSN's list begins with our CFL on TSN personalities and CFL writers from across Canada choosing their Top 40 players in the league. From the list of players, they had to follow these guidelines: - One quarterback or more, two running backs or more, four receivers or more, five offensive linemen or more, three linebackers or more, four defensive linemen or more and five defensive backs or more. - The player had to be playing in the CFL this season. From their list of 40 players, we gave a point ranking from each placing that went as followed: 1st - 50 points 2nd - 45 points 3rd - 40 points 4th - 38 points 5th - 36 points 6th - 35 points 7th-40th - 34 points for 7th working down by a point to 1 point for 40th place. From there, all the names and points were compiled and the Top 50 point-getters became our Top 50 players in the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Fantuz had a terrible season in Hamilton yet he makes it at #45? All I saw out of Fantuz was the dropsies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 Fantuz had a terrible season in Hamilton yet he makes it at #45? All I saw out of Fantuz was the dropsies. and at least based on preseason that's still an issue for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 In the big picture who gives a rat's ass who the media picks as the top 50. Ultimately it is who wins the Grey Cup. Let those brainiacs pick a team's roster and see how smart they are. Let them manage a cap and see how smart they are. Easy to be an"expert" when there are no consequences for bad decisions. We'll see how smart Forde is when he trades his cushy opinion in for a real life decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I happen to think that Toronto could win a Grey Cup without Owens. But not without Ray. That being said, Travis Lulay carried the Lions on his back at times last season. I think in the CFL, without a great qb teams lose. Therefore picking Owens at #1 & Lulay at #2 was wrong. Where would the Als be without Calvillo? Look at us when Buck didn't play. Calgary would have been hooped without Glenn. So, a return guy & receiver at #1, don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Fantuz had a terrible season in Hamilton yet he makes it at #45? All I saw out of Fantuz was the dropsies. He was the top Canadian receiver in the league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Muamba should be on the list, and Larry Taylor being ahead of Chad Simpson is a travesty. Chad Simpson being the 6th ranked running back is actually a travesty in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Chad Simpson being the 6th ranked running back is actually a travesty in itself. I'm willing to make a case that he's the best back in the league... or at least in that conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Muamba should be on the list, and Larry Taylor being ahead of Chad Simpson is a travesty. Chad Simpson being the 6th ranked running back is actually a travesty in itself. Nobody insulted the guy. Everyone knows how promising a player he is. But you also would have to say that the 5 running backs in front of him are no scrubs either ( Cornish, Harris, Whitaker, Sheets and Kackert). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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