Man time goes by fast. Just the amount of swagger Zach brought to the bombers as the missing piece in the puzzle. I was forever a Matt Nichols guy as he brought stability to the quarterback position but having Zach do the impossible on the football field I think gave our team the confidence that we could get over the hump and be great. Going back to back after a 30 year draught was a special moment for me that I’ll never forget. It hurts because we truly should have won four in a row, maybe even five but that’s the game of football. That’s life. It doesn’t always work out that way. But I will forever be thankful for what Zach did for this organization and for what he’s meant for this team, the league, and its fans. One thing I’ll say,from 2024-2026 we got a mixed bag but you still saw that Zach is one of those old school hates losing more then enjoying winning kind of guys and I’ll always appreciate the heart and soul he put into this team, he took a lot of big hits but he always wanted to be out on the field leading us back to glory. So a lot of respect to number 8. If this is it I’ll forever be greatfull for all the amazing memories in the last 7 years.

2 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Man time goes by fast. Just the amount of swagger Zach brought to the bombers as the missing piece in the puzzle. I was forever a Matt Nichols guy as he brought stability to the quarterback position but having Zach do the impossible on the football field I think gave our team the confidence that we could get over the hump and be great. Going back to back after a 30 year draught was a special moment for me that I’ll never forget. It hurts because we truly should have won four in a row, maybe even five but that’s the game of football. That’s life. It doesn’t always work out that way. But I will forever be thankful for what Zach did for this organization and for what he’s meant for this team, the league, and its fans. One thing I’ll say,from 2024-2026 we got a mixed bag but you still saw that Zach is one of those old school hates losing more then enjoying winning kind of guys and I’ll always appreciate the heart and soul he put into this team, he took a lot of big hits but he always wanted to be out on the field leading us back to glory. So a lot of respect to number 8. If this is it I’ll forever be greatfull for all the amazing memories in the last 7 years.

Not winning four championships in a row...maybe 5... isn't football. It's a head coach who constantly makes roster mistakes & is so damned stubborn he listens to no one.

10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Not winning four championships in a row...maybe 5... isn't football. It's a head coach who constantly makes roster mistakes & is so damned stubborn he listens to no one.

YEAH...NOT deviating from anything after all the successive failures...tells even the minimally intelligent person that the HC has no clue what to do....let alone why things are failing....move on time long over due....should never had gave a 3 yr extension...wasnt earned. All the earning and goodwill was used up after the 3rd grey cup flop...realistically the 2nd

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Booch

Collaros also put up absolute duds in 3 consecutive Grey Cups though

2024 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 15
- Att: 30
- Pass Yds: 202
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 4

2023 vs. Montreal Alouettes

- Comp: 19
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 236
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

2022 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 14
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 183
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

Combined: 48/76, 621 YDS, 0 TD, 6 INT

He hasn't thrown a TD in a Grey Cup since 2021.

Appreciate the 2 Grey Cups, but it's also been time to move on for 3+ years

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Dr Zaius

Yeah and 2019 collaros wasn't the sole guy either. Harris and Streveler had a ton to do with success offensively that year.

I appreciate the play collaros gave us for a stretch there but his legacy is wildly inflated.

52 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:

Collaros also put up absolute duds in 3 consecutive Grey Cups though

2024 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 15
- Att: 30
- Pass Yds: 202
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 4

2023 vs. Montreal Alouettes

- Comp: 19
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 236
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

2022 vs. Toronto Argonauts

- Comp: 14
- Att: 23
- Pass Yds: 183
- Pass TD: 0
- INT: 1

Combined: 48/76, 621 YDS, 0 TD, 6 INT

He hasn't thrown a TD in a Grey Cup since 2021.

Appreciate the 2 Grey Cups, but it's also been time to move on for 3+ years

People...coache's included got too enamoured with reg season wins and "success" but when chips were down and it mattered most..ZC didnt really deliver...and coaching failed us on multiple levels

The Cups we also did win....were won not because our coaching or ZC for that matter were amazing...they were won by the amazing parts we had, and their stellar play...and the proper attitude/hunger/accountability we had that we self policed

A lot walked out the door with guys like Jeffcoat...BA...Bailey...Biggie...Woli...even Kongbo...and was never replaced

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Booch

Collaros is like most QB's in this league. He could put up a MOP year with a great OL, with a bad OL he looks like a jackass.

You can apply this to Harris, Fajardo, Kelly, BLM.

The only guys who maybe have some ability to do it on their own are Rourke and Alexander. Although Rourke hasn't even got that close to getting over the hump yet.

VAJ just sucks in general when it comes to winning.

28 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah and 2019 collaros wasn't the sole guy either. Harris and Streveler had a ton to do with success offensively that year.

I appreciate the play collaros gave us for a stretch there but his legacy is wildly inflated.

Much like Osh's...we did a lot of winning despite his flaws...continued flaws and bias's and we were able to wring every drop outta guys to do it until we just didnt have the guys to do it anymore...well we likely did but they had to take a backseat to the Osh bois

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Booch

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

People...coache's included got too enamoured with reg season wins and "success" but when chips were down and it mattered most..ZC didnt really deliver...and coaching failed us on multiple levels

The Cups we also did win....were won not because our coaching or ZC for that matter were amazing...they were won by the amazing parts we had, and their stellar play...and the proper attitude/hunger/accountability we had that we self policed

A lot walked out the door with guys like Jeffcoat...BA...Bailey...Biggie...Woli...even Kongbo...and was never replaced

Agree with everything except you’ve got to give ZC some credit for 2021. He did get it done at the end of the 4th and OT, granted 2 bad picks put Hamilton in the position to get ahead in the first place.

2 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

Agree with everything except you’ve got to give ZC some credit for 2021. He did get it done at the end of the 4th and OT, granted 2 bad picks put Hamilton in the position to get ahead in the first place.

true....He did earn flowers with that cant deny....but the overall accumulation of work...not so much

If he had played lights out even for parts of that game tho we likely aren't even in that position

And when we realistically look at that game it should have been a loss...that bone headed returner giving up a single...we lose that game and the pass break up play by Nichols in the endzone...it of itself was a good play..but also very lucky never occurs...they kick the FG and we would have lost 4 straight Cups

2021 give it to Collaros for sure. He was the man that year.... but I was actually pretty disgusted when TSN was talking during the most recent game about Collaros and his "whatever it takes" attitude talking about the grey cup against Toronto and how valiant it was to go out there and want to be out there with his finger hanging off.... that's not a point in his favour that's selfishness. Putting himself above the team. Can't throw but insists on going out there anyway.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

2021 give it to Collaros for sure. He was the man that year.... but I was actually pretty disgusted when TSN was talking during the most recent game about Collaros and his "whatever it takes" attitude talking about the grey cup against Toronto and how valiant it was to go out there and want to be out there with his finger hanging off.... that's not a point in his favour that's selfishness. Putting himself above the team. Can't throw but insists on going out there anyway.

yeah....and last game...his decision to pull ball from BO and look to pass...when BO was churning up yards...in FG position already at worst....was he seeking the glory?...who knows...but was a poor decision none the less for a 600k QB who had well over a decade of experience