With Rookie Camps getting underway Wednesday, it's time to talk about the 2026 CFL season!

13 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Noeller you know jack **** about building a team or grading out qbs. You just have a total childish hate on for Faj because he played for the Riders. No matter what he does you'll always hate him. You've called Faj a whiner for his complaining to the media at times. Who the heck cares??? As long as he goes & balls out when he plays which he does. Is Faj the best qb in the CFL? No, but he is Top 5. The guy has been money for the past number of years. A GC winner & has been successful in guiding the teams he played for into the playoffs. I agree with wbbfan that he's one of the best qbs & I'd have no trouble building a team around him.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but how many Pro teams have you built or Pro qbs have you graded?

17 hours ago, Noeller said:

They won the game... He didn't look like a hall of famer...

21-26 for 290 and 3 TDs including a perfectly placed game winner....what else could he have done?

5 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I'm not disagreeing with you, but how many Pro teams have you built or Pro qbs have you graded?

21-26 for 290 and 3 TDs including a perfectly placed game winner....what else could he have done?

CF is a good QB it's just very hard to market around guys like him and Chad Kelly, they just give off an unlikeable vibe.

7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

I'm not disagreeing with you, but how many Pro teams have you built or Pro qbs have you graded?

21-26 for 290 and 3 TDs including a perfectly placed game winner....what else could he have done?

At no point has he ever looked like a Hall Of Famer... That's my only point.

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

At no point has he ever looked like a Hall Of Famer... That's my only point.

I get it. Fact say otherwise.

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

I get it. Fact say otherwise.

54 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

5 incompletions and 3 TD passes in a GC game against what was a very good defense. AND the game winning TD pass with seconds remaining against pretty tight coverage. You'd be creamin your pants if #8 had anything close to that in a GC game and you know it.

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That makes him a hall of famer?

Reality is I've never been a huge collaros fan. Always said him being the best qb for a while there was an indictment of the rest of the league and his playoff performances have historically not been good. So don't use him as a comparison. 2019 Streveler had as much to do with the win as collaros.

Either way, faj still sucks. He's got all of burris' shitty attitude without anywhere near the talent.

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

That makes him a hall of famer?

Reality is I've never been a huge collaros fan. Always said him being the best qb for a while there was an indictment of the rest of the league and his playoff performances have historically not been good. So don't use him as a comparison. 2019 Streveler had as much to do with the win as collaros.

Either way, faj still sucks. He's got all of burris' shitty attitude without anywhere near the talent.

no. I was replying to Noellers - "he's never LOOKED like a hall of famer". That game as the facts show. He did. It was the best game he ever played in his biggest moment. He looked good that game and I hate admitting that.

And I wasn't comparing him to Collaros. I was saying IF Collaros ever has a GC game like that one, people would be talking about it as a legendary performance.

Conflating "he looked like he had a good game" with "he looked like a hall of famer" is the issue. We're splitting hairs here... Why is anyone around here actively looking for ways to support Faj? That is staggering to me.

9 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

.He's got all of burris' shitty attitude without anywhere near the talent.

Chefs Kiss. Couldn't be said better.

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Conflating "he looked like he had a good game" with "he looked like a hall of famer" is the issue. We're splitting hairs here... Why is anyone around here actively looking for ways to support Faj? That is staggering to me.

Chefs Kiss. Couldn't be said better.

Nothing wrong with giving Faj some credit and saying that people under rate his abilities. I do believe this is true.

On the same note, I don't think Faj is a guy that anyone is going to ever consider the top QB during his era, his legend will be his whining and hitting a post.

23 hours ago, wbbfan said:

Hasn't he done everything Matt Nichols ever did, but at a much higher level? He's succeeded too much in different places to be that overrated. He is one of the best of the group of QBs you'd not want to build around.

Let's not forget he outplayed Zach in the 2023 Grey Cup.

39 minutes ago, blueandgoldguy said:

Let's not forget he outplayed Zach in the 2023 Grey Cup.

Yeah but Nick Arbuckle outplayed Zach in a grey Cup too

15 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah but Nick Arbuckle outplayed Zach in a grey Cup too

I think both those instances say more about ZC than the other 2

In the 2 cup wins..it wasnt from ZC carrying us on his back with his play

Our wins were team wins..Great depth and player use across tge board..so much that the coaching couldn't fuckit all up..self policed..self accountable..

We lost that across the board ability..let some key voices and players leave..and never replaced those voids..and we didnt have the real leadership and ability coaching wise to carry us thru that..nor did we do anything really to adress it and plot a smart future path moving forward..got lazy and looked too much in rear view and believed too much in the accolades in the press..and here we are

I still have a hard time saying those guys necessarily outplayed him. You can't just look at stats in a vacuum. There's weird **** like the OL, Receivers, play calling... Lord knows Collaros was hurt in at least two of those games.

Not saying he was great just not that easy to say who outplayed whom...

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

I still have a hard time saying those guys necessarily outplayed him.

Not me, collaros is not a great playoff performer and lots of guys have outplayed him.

2019 and 2021 we had absolutely stacked teams with high end talent and depth out the wazoo.

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Not me, collaros is not a great playoff performer and lots of guys have outplayed him.

2019 and 2021 we had absolutely stacked teams with high end talent and depth out the wazoo.

You've hated Zach Collaros for years... Why just last week..............