Bombers-RedBlacks Early Chat

[Booch]

7 hours ago, Goalie said:

Well likely all 3 of the mafia approved. But conspiracy theory it was all O’Shea. But it’s not. They have made it clear it’s a 3 headed operation. 

ahhh...nope wrong there...A HC has full control of who he hires/wants....and if not given that liberty would not accept the job....Thats a fact not conspiracy...That goes as well as who is on his roster...he will get input from his assistants but he alone makes final deision

[Booch]

10 hours ago, Goalie said:

Because he just doesn’t seem to have the skills. They don’t even let him try really. Says it all. Dude is a good short yardage guy but he’s not future starter. 

he has best arm of any qb we have in camp....prob best pocket presence as well and the onions to stand in and let things develop for a pass more than 5 yards....guy needs reps and opportunity.....much like any young QB..

He just needs live work to see how things develop...experience on how teams do things...which is understandable....but to say he has shown nothing and has had a chance is totally false

7 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Head coaches pick their staff that's kind of the whole deal. 

I've said it before, osh deserves a statue outside the stadium, but it's looking like his ideas are old and stale and if he doesn't adapt then serious questions need to be asked about his future. 

Correct....no HC would take a job if he didn't have full carte Blanche to pick his assistants....if you wanna experience the Glieberman experience with owners/g.m meddling...well you see the results of that

Everything that is going on here is fully at the feet of the HC.....

[Bigblue204]

11 hours ago, Goalie said:

Agreed. Streveler seems to be a lost cause. Perhaps a trade to Hamilton for Powell. I dunno. Change of scenery. Hamilton likes Tuas brother so maybe a change for Strev and Powell would be beneficial. I mean I think he’s a guy I’d go after in the off season anyways so Just why not expedite the process if you can. Now. 

They liked Tualia so much they cut him earlier this year.

[bearpants]

10 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Head coaches pick their staff that's kind of the whole deal. 

I've said it before, osh deserves a statue outside the stadium, but it's looking like his ideas are old and stale and if he doesn't adapt then serious questions need to be asked about his future. 

This is most reasonable (and one agree with) "Fire O'Shea" take I've seen on this site... Look at how Dickensen has adapted in Calgary... not saying we need to fire O'Shea now... but he obviously needs to do better

[JuranBoldenRules]

55 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

They liked Tualia so much they cut him earlier this year.

He was playing the lower tier of arena ball after getting cut by a European team.

[ShyGuy]

8 minutes ago, bearpants said:

This is most reasonable (and one agree with) "Fire O'Shea" take I've seen on this site... Look at how Dickensen has adapted in Calgary... not saying we need to fire O'Shea now... but he obviously needs to do better

How long do you give him to adapt though? Dickenson started out losing 2 straight grey cups, won 1, then then didn't make it to the conference finals for 4 straight years before bottoming out and missing the playoffs last year. That is ALOT of rope.

[bearpants]

On 2025-08-11 at 11:22 AM, ShyGuy said:

How long do you give him to adapt though? Dickenson started out losing 2 straight grey cups, won 1, then then didn't make it to the conference finals for 4 straight years before bottoming out and missing the playoffs last year. That is ALOT of rope.

I agree with you... and I don't know the answer to that question... but I think we need to start seeing some changes before the rope should be extended too much...

[Booch]

1 hour ago, bearpants said:

I agree with you... and I don't know the answer to that question... but I think we need to start seeing some changes before the rope should be extended too much...

he's had the last 2 yrs at minimum to adapt....and thats giving him some benefit of the doubt and some rope from past success

But he has shown either no ability...or no desire to unless forced to...be it injury or a lil gentle suggestion from above....to me that says you get what you see, and an old stubborn war horse such as that...at this juncture in his career isn't gonna change....so it's time to say thanks for all the good things...being a huge part of the resurrection here....but time to say goodbye and we will honor you accordingly in the near future

based on last 3 grey cups....and 2024 and this season to date...we are a .500 ball club....and we aint currently trending up...we trending down....

and save for that 2024 Montreal miracle fluke of biblical proportions...we sub .500

Thats 30 games

Edited 6 hours ago by Booch

[sweep the leg]

24 minutes ago, Booch said:

he's had the last 2 yrs at minimum to adapt....and thats giving him some benefit of the doubt and some rope from past success

But he has shown either no ability...or no desire to unless forced to...be it injury or a lil gentle suggestion from above....to me that says you get what you see, and an old stubborn war horse such as that...at this juncture in his career isn't gonna change....so it's time to say thanks for all the good things...being a huge part of the resurrection here....but time to say goodbye and we will honor you accordingly in the near future

based on last 3 grey cups....and 2024 and this season to date...we are a .500 ball club....and we aint currently trending up...we trending down....

and save for that 2024 Montreal miracle fluke of biblical proportions...we sub .500

Thats 30 games

I get the point you’re trying to make, but that’s pretty creative math. If you start from the 2023 Grey Cup, we’re 16-13 playoffs inclusive. 

[Noeller]

@WinnipegGordo anything from practice yet this week? I ditched the Nazi network, so I haven't seen any updates...

[Bigblue204]

20 minutes ago, Noeller said:

@WinnipegGordo anything from practice yet this week? I ditched the Nazi network, so I haven't seen any updates...

Benson has been released
Bonds and Parker ruled out for Thursday.

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WinnipegGordo]

At least the Bombers are winning at the box office.

 

 

[Super Duper Negatron]

13 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:

At least the Bombers are winning at the box office.

 

 

Sep. 27th looks like a virtual sellout already as well. The last Sask game looks easily do-able. Only question mark will be the final game...if it matters in the standings I bet we sellout the entire season. Can you imagine the hype for a home Grey Cup game if we were actually good?

The offseason and performance of the team so far coinciding with this level of fan enthusiasm in a Grey Cup year feels like an all time fumble.

Edited 4 hours ago by Super Duper Negatron

[Noeller]

It would be an incredible feat to sell out an entire year, but if they keep losing... 

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

[Booch]

1 hour ago, sweep the leg said:

I get the point you’re trying to make, but that’s pretty creative math. If you start from the 2023 Grey Cup, we’re 16-13 playoffs inclusive. 

True...so we a 500 club last 3 playoffs inluding 22'..not sure why you wanted to start in 23'...not good enough...500 club this yr...and trending down...badly

Really should have been 10-8 last yr without that gift from God

So I guess 17-15...still...not good enough when the repeat reasons for failure keep occuring

 

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Benson has been released
Bonds and Parker ruled out for Thursday.

it’s interesting they cut benson. if he was injured i’d think keep him on the ir. we cut laroux for benson in camp. don’t hate it just doesn’t make a ton of sense. 

 

Bonds out is addition by subtraction. 

[Atomic]

17 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Bonds out is addition by subtraction. 

I'll wait to see his replacement before making that declaration... 😬

[TommyClements]

20 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

it’s interesting they cut benson. if he was injured i’d think keep him on the ir. we cut laroux for benson in camp. don’t hate it just doesn’t make a ton of sense. 

 

Bonds out is addition by subtraction. 

Indeed .. Bonds’ play has sure dropped off. Opportunity for someone to take that spot and never give it back.

Bonds out for season per Schnitzer

[wbbfan]

15 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I'll wait to see his replacement before making that declaration... 😬

he’s been burned soo much this year, he should’ve been sat down weeks ago. i like the upside and project ability of young dbs in our system and that we find  

[Goalie]

So who goes in for bonds? Prob Kelly right? 

[Atomic]

28 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

he’s been burned soo much this year, he should’ve been sat down weeks ago. i like the upside and project ability of young dbs in our system and that we find  

Oh yeah he'd been awful. I just don't see a replacement. Bringing Lawson back from the scrapheap doesn't give me a lot of faith that we have anyone good lined up. If it's actually Demario Houston that is bad news.

[rebusrankin]

I think Vaval takes Bonds spot for this week at least.